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Old 04-14-2012, 10:39 AM
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Default Deutscher Gem help

I'm currently piecing a Deutscher gem together to find out whats missing. Originally i thought the vapouriser was missing, i have the original (i think) 3 bowl carbi that looks to bolt directly to the head with no vapouriser. I have since been told that this is correct if they didn't need to run on kero and on some engines the two extra bowls were cut off in the factory.
Does anyone have any info on gems or photos of any like this?

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Old 04-16-2012, 03:00 AM
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Justin Im no expert but I have not seen one without the cast iron vaporiser.Check Michaels one out, you will see also the air intake valve is in the vaporiser and I recon you are gonna need one of them.
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G'day Russell, I thought the same thing when i first noticed the vaporiser missing but i think from memory the air valve is on top of head.
I've looked at a few different styles of vaporisers on the star engines which seem to either have the four bolt square flange 2 piece or the 4 bolt round flange single piece vaporiser. Some of the Deutscher gems did have a two bolt one but use very large studs for mounting.
There is not alot of room between the head studs on mine and i think the studs are only 3/8 that hold it on. There is also some gasket on head that matches up with carbi.
I'll try to get a few more photos with some more bits in place.

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Hopefully these pics will help. One is a Duetscher Gem without the vapouriser and the other is a Duetscher with the carby direct attached to the head. Drop me an email to remind me, and I can send you the hires originals of these pics.
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Theres always more to learn hey. Thanks patrick for the pics. Justin could well be worth a call to Mike Kingwell in Nhil; Victoria. You will find his number in the phone book. He is a Gem, Star fanatic.
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Thanks Patrick, that gem looks to be an early one with the curved spoked flywheels and has a different carburettor. Looks like the spark plug is in the centre of head. Also has a different name plate. Have you got a photo of the name plate???

Found the engine number (648) stamped on the bearings and conrod.
Alot of the earlier ones arn't numbered.

Thanks Russell, i have Mike Kingwells number

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Here is a photo of the inlet valve on top of head and air valve on carburettor. A few of the Gems iv'e seen without the vaporiser have the spark plug in the front of head, but this one is in the side.
Still unsure of HP (either 8 or 10) for this engine. Has an 8" inch piston 14 3/4 stroke and very heavy flywheels.

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A photo of my little helper and the heavy flywheels.
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Hi Justin. Those are the only pics I have on file. You will have a nice engine when you have it finished.
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