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Old 12-08-2012, 08:59:33 PM
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Hello, located west of Portland. I just pulled out my Fairbanks Morse engine that I have had for many years. After sort of fininshing the rebuilding of two Model A Fords and an Ford 8N tractor, I thought I had better get the old FM out and see what I could do with it.

The FM is a Z model, with patent date of 10-17-16, SN of 512637. It had been used to pump water on my parents farm up until the late 1940's or early 1950's. So it has been around for a number of years. It is complete and it ran up until the time it was not used anymore. So I think I may be able to get it to run again. So far I have cleaned it up a bit, built a platform to move it around with and am now ready to see if it will start. I need to clean the gas tank and get some non-crap gas and see how things go from there. Wish me luck!
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Default Re: New guy from Portland, OR area.

Hello and welcome.I've visited Portland a time or two,nice part of the world.Pretty sweet outdoor market there
Good luck on the FM.We here all like photos,if you have any to post.would look forward to see them
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Thanks guys. Will have to keep working on this old engine.

We have a show down in Brooks Oregon every summer. It is a show of old tractors, cars and they have a lot of Hit and Miss engines there also. May have to get the old engine set up to take it down there one of these summers.
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Default Re: New guy from Portland, OR area.

Out of curiosity, what h.p. is it, 1-1/2?
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Old 12-09-2012, 01:40:13 AM
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Welcome to the stak and good luck with the engine. I too would like to see pictures of your engine and cars and tractor. Thanks Bill K
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Out of curiosity, what h.p. is it, 1-1/2?
Pat it is 3 HP.

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I will get some pictures in the next day or so. Thanks for the interest.
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Here are some pictures of my FM 3 HP Z.
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Some more pictures.
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Hello You are welcome to bring your engine to Antique Powerland on Dec. 29th Our engine group has a "Engine Class" the last Sat. of every month during the winter. Our topic for this class is --- bring an engine you are haveing trouble getting to run --- so it would fit perfectly. We meet at 9 AM regardless of the weather & usually are done before noon. Go all the way to the north side, the next building past the Texaco Station. My Email is " Les.Layton@gmail.com " Hope to hear from you.... Les
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Thanks Les, sent you off an email.

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Hope you don't paint it looks good just the way it is





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Randy, I was thinking about the same thing. It is kind of dirty and has a lot of grease on it in spots but it still does have some green paint on it. So it may just get cleaned up a bit and stay the way it is.

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Hey guys-I have got spark!!! Went out today, cleaned up the old spark plug (could be 70 + years old), took it out and grounded it, cranked the old thing over, and the old spark plug sparked like it should!

Now I still need to get some non-crap gas and dump some in the gas tank, then let it drain out the drain plug to see how clean the tank is. Then if I can get some of that gas up to this great old spark plug, may get this old thing hitting and missing!

I took the two grease cups off the underside of where the mag and governer(??) is and found very little old grease in them. They were screwed down tight, I don't think they have been turned for maybe 70 years or so. So need to get some good grease in them along with the other grease cups.

This old engine I think, not being and expert on this sort of thing, is in great shape. Everything is in place, mag, oil drip cup, etc. and it was running when it was stored years ago. So once I get the gas installed, I think the old thing will fire up (I hope).

Any other good advise before I fire this thing up?
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Lube really well maby even over lube. A shortage of oil or grease can do a lot of damage in a short time. I take the spark plug out and turn it over a lot tighten the grease cups down and drip some oil down in the cylinder while rotating. I usually make a big mess when I am preping one but I have never torn any thing up because of running something dry. Bill K

ps half the fun is gitting dirty. If you do not believe me a 2 year old play with your tools and engines.
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[QUOTE=kfdutch;849047]Randy, I was thinking about the same thing. It is kind of dirty and has a lot of grease on it in spots but it still does have some green paint on it. So it may just get cleaned up a bit and stay the way it is.[COLOR="Silver"]

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I am glad to hear that! I always like to see the engines having their work cloths on and staying org.

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Default Re: New guy from Portland, Oregon area.

Welcome to the Stak! You're definately in the right place. nice looking 3 hp.

With that FM J mag, just be sure you don't spin the engine when it's not grounded at the plug. Also looking at the surface rust you may want to remove the mag and shine up the facing surfaces & mounting bolts to be absolutely sure you have good ground.

Keep us updated on your progress!
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Making a little progress. Got the old engine "stabilized" on a new platform (I know, it is not the type of cart one should use) so I can do some more work on it.

I unscrewed the exhaust pipe from the head and found a lot of burnt black stuff inside the head. Cleaned it out and turned the engine over a few times. When I thought it was on the compression stroke, it sounded like there was some "blow by" from the exhaust valve. Is this the way it suppose to sound? Maybe I should just put some gas in the tank and after oil and grease parts, try to start it. Any comments? Thanks.
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I got it running!!!! I put some gas in the little "gas" tank, put in some antifreeze in the tank, cranked it over and away it went. It ran like it is suppose to (I think). It blew out a bunch of crud out the exhaust, ran well after I figured how far to screw out the gas knob.

Then when it was running, I thought I would mess with the gas rod to see if I could make it go faster or slower. It stated to jump all over the place. Turned it off. Then started it again and it did the same jump thing. What did I do? Did I mess up the governor or something? Any ideas would be appreciated.

Thanks for all the help.

Fred K
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