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Waterloo Boy Type "T" Stationary Engine


Several years ago I contacted the national 2 Cylinder Club about the age of this engine. The info...

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Old 02-26-2013, 03:29 PM
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Several years ago I contacted the national 2 Cylinder Club about the age of this engine. The info they gave me stated that it was a 1902 model and rated at 8 to 9 horsepower. Id say they had the engine confused with a single cylinder hit and miss Waterloo. The condition of this engine is very likely original. Waterloo Boy is still legible on the channel frame. We have had this piece in our collection for 20 years or so. The serial number is 1238 and it is rated at 25 hp at 750 rpm. Any help from the forum on nailing down the age would be great.

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Just as a side note, the manifold and carb are not attached due to the fact the engine frame is on a pallet. We have the correct cart for it as well, it just needs to be attached. We are missing the mag, radiator, and fuel tank but they shouldn't be too hard to find or reproduce.
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Nice engine. I see you installed some radiant floor heating.
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These engines are very, very similar to the Associated 25 HP. I believe made in the 20's. I'll get my dad to send a pic of his 25 Associated to you.

He knows of a Waterloo (like yours) out east that is hooked up at a cider mill and still in use.
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The Associated 25 HP was manufactured by Waterloo Boy and sold by Associated. The version sold by Associated had a few changes. Raised cast base among other things, but basically a Waterloo Boy tractor engine set up for stationary service.
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Go to search and look up Montgomery co Mo show and Gathering of the Sticks in Mt Pleasant Iowa,Anttena, aka, Mike Folta has one similar to this I think,nice engine, I know I took a picture of his dog Lucky in front of it.......
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I think you will find the Associated twin was actually made by the Lacross tractor company and is basically the same engine as in the happy farmer tractor
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Mag, here is a pic of a 25 Associated. There are quite a few differences. There was a story in GEM about a 25 Waterloo being used in NY state to drive the mechanism to cut up apples to make cider. I switched over to RFD a few days ago and they were showing the video of the store where the Waterloo is. Didn't think to record it at the time.

Dan, would you forward your information where Lacrosse made the engine for Associated. Been looking for that for a long time.

Sorry I can't help with the date of your engine.

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There was an Associated at the Schurman sale in Washington state a few years back, it was pretty much a 12-24 Happy Farmer tractor motor like we used to own. Not real familiar with Waterloo Boys but not the same at all.
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Thanks to all the responders about our Waterloo stationary! The info on the Associated 25 hp is quite interesting as well. My guess is that Waterloo was the main foundry in town compared to Associated and Galloway.
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Hey mag, that is a sweet engine. I don't know for a fact, but I think the Waterloo foundry may have made castings for AManCo and Galloway.
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Thats a good point. The casting of the head, block, manifold, ect looks identical to the waterloo stationary. The spark plugs are at an angle in the block and that is different

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We even have the correct cart for is as well but 2 of the 4 wheels are not quite original.
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Hi Mag,
That's sure a nice engine, I hope you keep it original. Maybe the JD archives could dig up something for you?, was that model of engine used in a tractor as that might give a year range. This thread has the only engine like yours that I could find,
http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26861
But I'm sure i have seen a photo of a restored one(possibly the same engine?).
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Nathan, thanks for the link to the old post! We have owned this engine since the early 1980's. Are plan for now is to get it mounted to our semi correct cart, obtain a reproduction radiator, and find a mag for it. In the short term we could use our Waterloo Boy tractor mag to make the stationary run. By the way, what happened to Keith S., the Associated engine guy? He was the main responder in the old forum link you posted for me. I sent him info and pics on all of our Associated's but have herd no responce.
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I have just been in contact with Kieth S. in the last few weeks about my Associated. Contacted him through his web site.
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I think you will find the Associated twin was actually made by the Lacross tractor company and is basically the same engine as in the happy farmer tractor
Back in the early 70's my dad (Jim Withers) had a twin Waterloo Boy stationary, a twin Associated stationary, and an unidentified twin stationary he said was a Happy Farmer. These were not the same engines. I don't have any pictures of these engines but maybe my brother Keven does in dads collection of engine pictures. They were lined up together in the yard at his machine shop in Osakis,MN. I don't remember where they went to. Maybe at least 1 of these went to John Tysse at Crosby, ND.
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Jswithers, thanks for the info! Any pics you might come across of you father's Waterloo twin would be of great help. What is Keith's website? I thought that's were I found his email that I used to send him info about our Associateds.
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Go to oldengine.org then click on oldengine.org me mbers scroll down the page to Keith Smigle's Associated web page click on it.
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