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1929 Model A Ford Radiator


After driving myself :crazy: I finally determined the radiator in my '29 Model A is not correct for...

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Question 1929 Model A Ford Radiator

After driving myself I finally determined the radiator in my '29 Model A is not correct for the car.......
Even with the 1/8" thick pads removed from the lower radiator mounts and the front of the hood lying directly on the radiator it needs to be lower yet.
When I bought the car I was told it had a Fordor hood on it. Apparently a Briggs hood.....a REALLY nice hood too which would fit but not correct for the Tudor.

So........my question is what are the differences between the 28-29 and 30 & later radiators?
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Default Re: 1929 Model A Ford Radiator

the 28-29 radiator is shorter then the 29-30 model.
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Thanks VernOn but by how much?
That's what I need to know........I think I know what I'LL be doing tomorrow afternoon.......

I surfed till my eyes were ready to fall out and the ONLY documentation I found was an unreadable, poor resolution, photo........
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Craig:

I think the '30-'31 radiator would be WAY too tall.

Either someone's cobbled it up or it's mounted wrong.

? I can probably help.
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I know it's too tall but it's not possible to mount it wrong......I need to know the distance between the headers and the height of the top tank from the bottom of the top header to the top of the tank.....not the filler.
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I need to get this done......the car is in front of my tractor/mower and I NEED to mow SOON.......
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Default Re: 1929 Model A Ford Radiator

I don't have mine handy or I'd get out the ruler, but I believe there is a 2 inch height difference between 28-29 rad and the 30-31 rad. Can you post more pictures? Like with the hood open, and some from farther away to get more of the big picture. My parts book says the louvered part of the hood on a 28-29 measures 15 7/8 on the front edge and 16 3/4 on the back edge. The 30-31 shows 19 3/16 on front edge and 19 1/2 on the back edge.
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Default Re: 1929 Model A Ford Radiator

I got all the hood dimensions from the Rootlieb site.
My replacement hood is practically NOS, totally perfect and correct.
2" lower would only create the same problem in the other direction.
The difference between low and high Model T radiators is 1 3/8" between the headers but I don't that's the magic number for the A's too.
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Do you need photos & measurements from my '29 pickup? It has a '30 motor in it though.
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^ YES! You should be able to measure what I need to know from the outside for the height between the headers and on the inside for the height of the tank exclusive of the filler spout.........
The engine is irrelevant.


OK folks......I FOUND what I needed to know.......on ebay of all places.......someone FINALLY included dimensions in their auction!
Now I know what I have to do........should be zooming later.......

VernOn.......you were right on.......2" higher exactly.......
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The worst pain is self inflicted.......

The steel framework that protects the core and has mountings for the radiator core was loose at the bottom.
I matched up the "original" places from where it was and resoldered it without paying any attention to the distance between the framework and the core.......
Well.....that IS the way it WAS.......
I F I N A L L Y noticed a taper from top to bottom between the core and frame.......DUH....... ......so back to the shop.

Did I mention it's HOT today?
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Well at least you figured it out. I can't tell how many times I fixed something only to find I did it wrong. You live and learn. Glad you figured it out.
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The 28-29 caps screw on 30-31 don`t
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A friend of mine, who happens to be an expert body man, happened to be at the machine shop today.
I had the A and showed him the problem.
After having done a 100 point restoration on a very rare 28 Model AA truck he knew right away where to look!
I need to shim up some body blocks .
At least now I KNOW........not fun but I know.
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So, you don't need me anymore...........................



Craig here: I wouldn't say THAT........
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Default Re: 1929 Model A Ford Radiator

SO........it's NOT the body blocks either.......
It HAS to be the radiator height.
I still need to know the height of the radiator from the bottom side of the lower mounts to the top of the radiator top tank.....the tank.......not the filler neck.......
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My 29 is 26" from the bottom of the filler to the bottom of the radiator.
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I got it sorted.......sometimes you do whatever it is you need to do.
It's not perfect but neither is the car.......
Thanks eveyone!.......
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