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Old 09-13-2013, 08:44 AM
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Hi All,
ive already posted in the gas engine area,but this seems to be a better fit here.
I have a little x432 that im looking for a part for.
Appears im missing the crankcase breather cap.
OR,maybe im not?

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Old 09-13-2013, 02:14 PM
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Default Re: looking for parts for ironhorse x432

You are missing the breather cap as well as the metal clip that goes inside the breather cap. The breather cap is just a frost plug.
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Old 09-13-2013, 02:48 PM
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You wouldn't by chance have one would you ?
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Old 09-14-2013, 01:14 PM
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I will look this weekend. Im sure I have a few parts iron horses that will have a breather
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Default Re: looking for parts for ironhorse x432

Sounds like you need a muffler too!
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Old 09-14-2013, 08:00 PM
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Lol yes it does doesnt it !
Guess ill have to see if I can get a pancake unit from a supplier somewhere !
Then ill pull it apart and repaint .
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This is a suction feed engine it would have had a small rectangular tank below the engine with a check valve in the very small copper fuel line. On some the check valve was a tiny flat disk, the valve was in a brass fitting on the missing fuel tank. Cheers Mike by the way the best guy on Iron Horse I know would be Martin.

---------- Post added at 09:29 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:23 PM ----------

Item 54-67 is the check valve and 485-800 is the tank on the "carb page "
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Thanks Mike!
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Default Re: looking for parts for ironhorse x432

Vince, does the breather hole have a hole that is threaded for a screw in the middle of it and the entire hole is around 1 or 1 1/4 inches in diameter? If so I have a breather cap for you. Richard
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Hi Richard,
ill head out and have a look in the morning.

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Pulled the motor apart to have a peak,and I was very surprised at the condition of it.
I don't doubt that the worst has happened only to the exterior by banging around the junkyard.
The cylinder,piston,head and valves are almost in new condition.
Really baffles me,unless someone did a great repair job to it,,but i doubt anyone could make it look so good internally.
Finally was able to get the exhaust off with some Kroil penetrant for the last few days.
Cleaned up the threads and reinstalled it straight out with a a little quieter exhaust on it.
Removed repaired and replaced the choke assembly and Carb intake,after it looked like someone dropped something right on the screw disk tension adjuster and bent it sideways.
Also gave it a much needed oil change.
Took some photos of the inside of the motor.
I'll let you guys be the judge of it.




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Default Re: looking for parts for ironhorse x432

The breather is not tapped on these engines. Its a 2 piece cap as Bill mentioned. One is a spring clip that goes on first and the other is just like a small frost plug as Bill also stated. I measured a block i have in the house and it is 1 inch in diameter. The heat shield was designed to protect the carb. I see in the video yours is bent out of shape. You are also missing the air breather for the engine as well. They are usually the first thing to go missing off these engines. I have collected these engines for about 30 years now and have only gotten 1 that still had the air breather.

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Default Re: looking for parts for ironhorse x432

Jim,is the small frost plug cap just a press fit?
Does it just sit loose on there?
I see a metal tab inside the hole that is covering another small hole into the crankcase.
Is there a one way valve on the inside? whats it look like?
Im tempted to remove the crank breather just to look at it so id understand how it works
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Default Re: looking for parts for ironhorse x432

Yet another question guys,sorry.
Actaually two.
what size is the fuel line and coupling.
And what is the hole in the side of block below the governor rod.
looks like it was machined for something.
My has rtv silicone plugging it.
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Default Re: looking for parts for ironhorse x432

The frost plug cap is held in place by friction to the inside cap. Fuel line is 1/8 copper compression fittings. Will take picture of orginal fuel tank and of the 2 caps tomorrow when I am at the shop. Is the hole on the side of the block about a quarter of the way up ? If so it is the shaft the cam runs on. Remove plugs on both side and push shaft out and then the cam will come out of the block. Any other questions we will gladly answer

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Default Re: looking for parts for ironhorse x432

Hi Jim,
Yep that does sound like what it is.
So the put frost plugs in those holes ?
I didn't think to look on the other side .
Ill check tonight .
I'm guessing someone had it apart or lost the plug at some point .
This is what I'm looking at ,
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Default Re: looking for parts for ironhorse x432

Yep that,s for the cam They are held in by a lead plug. Plugs are a snug fit then center punch to expand to hold in place. Could pour melted wheel weights in hole then center punch after it cools.

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Was out at the shop today and took some pictures and also noticed that the engines there have a steel plug holding cam in. The one i have apart at the house here had lead plugs in it. The first picture is of a engine with both breather caps, Second is engine with just inside cap on, Third is of top side of both caps and last is under side of both caps. Hope this helps about what the caps look like. Place a ad on engine ads portion of this site and may find someone close to you may have them.

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Here are some pictures of the original fuel tank, line etc. This is a X513 with aluminum head, adjustable governor. This engine has myself and a other collector wondering why it has a flex hose exhaust. The 500's were not really used on washing machines, mainly garden tractors, lawn mowers etc. In the second picture you will see how the heat shield is suppose to be on these engines. I noticed in your video yours was bent out of shape. There are lots of variations of these engines. Another interesting thing is how Peterborough is spelled on the tags. The tags says Peterboro.

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