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Old 01-31-2005, 11:07:48 AM
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Here is my latest find and purchase. I first looked at this engine a year ago but the guy didn't want to sell back at that point because it has been in his family for a long time but finally this weekend I ended up with this quite unique engine. So far haven't found anyone who know who built it or when but it is extremely old. It is some type of homebuilt engine that I would guess was built around the turn of the century and is very crudely built with what ever they had it looks like but is somewhat complicated in design for the time. There is alot of wood construction in this engine, including flywheels, base, bearings, pulley and so forth. It has a very old skip tooth designed chain that turns a cam shaft that operates both the intake valve and exhaust and also operated a pendulum governor that opens the gas. It either opens the gas valve or leaves the gas valve shut. It has a little hot tube for ignition and was originally run off of natural gas. Hot sure what the cylinder was made from but has threads on the outside like some type of pump parts but the hopper consists of a sheet of metal wrapped around cylinder with wooden ends to give it the hopper shape on top. The only story this guy knew about the engine was it supposedly was used to drill a water well way back when but I don't see how the little thing would of ever made enough power to do such a thing.

Has anyone else ever run across such a engine before? or know any info on such a engine.

Here are some pics of the engine at the link attached

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Old 01-31-2005, 11:20:54 AM
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Firewood!!!!
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Old 01-31-2005, 11:56:00 AM
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" I don't see how the little thing would of ever made enough power to do such a thing."
It's all in how fast do you want to go.
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Old 01-31-2005, 12:12:55 PM
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Great find Tom,I am interested in how it runs.Keep us posted. Benny
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Old 01-31-2005, 02:23:19 PM
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Tom -

Nice! WHERE do you find this stuff?

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Old 01-31-2005, 02:32:35 PM
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I hope you don't have as much trouble as Rex did trying to figure out what to do with your latest engine find!
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Tom: NICE find of a unique one of a kind engine even if it is mostly made out of wood . I would have to run it once just to see the unique mechanisms in operation after checking it out carefully. Wouldn't want to break anything, but then again that construction adhesive is some good stuff to have around just in case.
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I have an old wood lathe that looks like the same guy might have built it.
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Termites? Wood Worms?
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Tom:

Be sure to keep the woodpeckers and beavers away from it, too.

I'll bet that, back around the turn of the century, there were a lot of blacksmiths and other mechanical nerds who built (or tried to build) their own engines. The engines that actually did some work and survived to this day are real gems.

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After spending a lifetime around engines and building stuff, etc, I look at that and say....hmmm, I could probably do a version of that, but in context of a hundred years ago, it is quite spectacular.

I would be slow to change much, even the dirt, without a lot more info. Even an average museum curator might give suspect advice on an item like you have. It deserves conservation, as an authentic antique, and that usually means: leave it mostly alone.

What a find !!
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You may have something that's extremely old there. Could be a prototype. Almost too good to slop oil on it - better to brush off dust with a dry paint brush like a true artifact.

Here is a 3/4 replica of the first high pressure engine known - Oliver Evans Steam Engine developed by 1792 and built 1801 - 1804. The original engine was 6" bore X 18" stroke operating at 30 - 35 r.p.m. at 50 p.s.i. Photo taken at the Rollag show 2003. Replica built by Chris Thompson of Guttenberg, IA.

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Old 02-01-2005, 12:18:02 PM
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Great looking engine Tom!

But it's not as rare as you might think. I believe it's a WOODpecker!
Sorry guys I couldn't resist. Seriously, that is incredible. The only homemade engine (of ancient vintage) I saw before was in GEM. A couple old boys from Kansas or Oklahoma built it when they were young using junk on the farm. It looks like a fun project to build engines of junk. Kevin
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Take a look at that drive chain. It is like an old bycycle chain with the short links made of cast iron.
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