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Old 03-20-2005, 08:46 AM
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G`Day all. I have just purchased a McDonald Imperial Diesel #3907 SE.
And would like to find out any information or manuals , parts list etc.
Any help or information about these motors would be appreciated.
I have not been able to find much about them on the net,so any info you guys may have regarding these motors will be well recieved.
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Phil.
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G'day Phil,
I have a McDonald Imperial Diesel open crank which is a 5HP CC or CE model dated at 1932. There is a dating list for McDonalds available. Email me your details and I will see what information I can pull from my files.
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Old 03-21-2005, 12:44 AM
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Phil

I have attached a photo of my Imperial Diesel taken at one of our Sydney Club rallies in 1999 (thanks to Patrick Livingstone for pic). Is yours this style of engine, or is it the enclosed crankcase type with disc flywheels? Luke

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G'day Phil,
I have a McDonald Imperial Diesel open crank which is a 5HP CC or CE model dated at 1932. There is a dating list for McDonalds available. Email me your details and I will see what information I can pull from my files.
Hello Luke,

Hopefully your offer goes out to others :-) I have a McDonald Imperial Diesel that is an enclosed crank with spoked flywheels with a Serial Number of 5250 CE. What year would that be? Thank you,

Bob
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Old 11-22-2007, 04:23 AM
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According to my book AH McDonald Industrial Pioneer serial No 5250CE would be very late 1948. 3907 SE would be 1945.
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Hello Ray,

Mystery solved- thank you for the information, being that "new" helps explain why it is in such great condition. Thanks again,

Bob
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Old 11-23-2007, 10:09 AM
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There must be a story as to how a McDonald engine made in Melbourne ended up in Washington The CE model was first produced in 1938 was was co produced with the earlier design open crank CD until 1943.The last CE was produced in 1950.
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Really appreciate the information Ray, thank you Yes, not very many McDonald's in the US. I got the engine (via e-Bay) from a collector who used to vacation in Australia and he "imported" the engine to the States. The McDonald CE is a well designed engine, it starts incredibly easy and runs very smooth with clean exhaust. I burn kerosene in mine, seems to be the fuel of choice for hvid systems.
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G'Day Luke I have just restored a McDonald Imperial Super Diesel Engine number 4509SE.It runs well but produces a lot of unburnt diesel. So would like to know valve settings and HP. Would it run on Kero.

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G'day Phil,
I have a McDonald Imperial Diesel open crank which is a 5HP CC or CE model dated at 1932. There is a dating list for McDonalds available. Email me your details and I will see what information I can pull from my files.
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Hi Lindsay 1/32" clearance on intake,exhaust and injector. They do hit and miss a bit I think it's the nature of the beast, make sure your injector needle is correctly lapped in otherwise it can leak combustion gas into the fuel line and cause an airlock, check for bubbles in the fuel tank. Other than than that they are pretty bullet proof. They are about 4 Hp not sure about kero I just run mine on diesel.


Mine running:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSeCa_BzSbE


Andrew

p.s I should have it at the Brookton motor show on 27th March

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Thanks Luke for your info have you any idea of the year of manufacture.

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Hello Lindsay and forum members,
Congratulations on restoring your MacDonald SE.They were a tough and simple old motor.I still recall installing one one on a 32v lighting plant when my parents were on a farm near Albany in the mid 1950's. Have since acquired an S-PI which now runs quite well,and also have an incomplete SE which came from your area. My motor needs the complete valve rocker arm and pushrod with attached springs to make it a runner. Seems there are a few in the area, so if anyone knows of a "parts" engine etc,I would be most grateful. Was also familiar with the bigger CE engine in the past, and if a restorable one of these was available I would seriously consider it.Enjoy your MacDonald
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G'day Luke, You may be able to help me. I am looking to buy a McDonald serial number is 2490F could you tell me what it's horsepower would be? thanks Bill
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ooooooooh nice find if memory serves F denotes factory rebuild
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Kerosene is a "lighter" oil and contains more volatiles which ignite easier which leads to a more smooth and complete combustion. With HVID system, there is not an injection pump with high pressure and tight tolerances so the lubrication characteristics from the fuel is not a problem. From my experience, when using kerosene (in both my Thermoil and McDonald), I have consistently noticed easier starting, less smoke, and no knock. Just sharing and appreciate the video :-)

Bob
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Default Re: McDonald Imperial Super Diesel

Goodday Luke,
This may seem like never ending requests, but I too am looking for some help. I have a McDonald Super diesel, serial number 3260CD. It is a horizontal single cylinder, not going as it needs a new bearing.
Would you be willing to check the year for me, please.
Les
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ooooooooh nice find if memory serves F denotes factory rebuild
F denotes a size. F is the largest of the Imperials according to the instruction manual.
Here is a link to the instruction manual. You'll see the PDF icon and click on it.
It has lots of other very useful information as well.
http://www.iamnota.net/e:ms1:mcdonal...er-diesel%20ff
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I forgot to mention..
Is it possible to date 2453CS please?

I have just started in this stationary engine habit and the McDonald is going to be my second engine to restore.
This is how I found it.

My first engine was no effort at all. A Lister D that took all of 20 minutes to fix.

Cheers then
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Goodday Luke,
This may seem like never ending requests, but I too am looking for some help. I have a McDonald Super diesel, serial number 3260CD. It is a horizontal single cylinder, not going as it needs a new bearing.
Would you be willing to check the year for me, please.
Les
That would be 1936. In that year numbers went from 3166 to 3335

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I forgot to mention..
Is it possible to date 2453CS please?


Cheers then
Scott
Scotty, that number comes up as a 2453CC made in 1931 or possibly in1941 there would have been a 2453SE. I can't find a referance to CS engines.
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That would be 1936. In that year numbers went from 3166 to 3335


Scotty, that number comes up as a 2453CC made in 1931 or possibly in1941 there would have been a 2453SE. I can't find a referance to CS engines.
Thanks so much for that.
I thought exactly the same as you but see for yourself. What do you make it out to be?
I have not got it home yet. I have to leave it until the pumpkin vine is dead.
Cheers Scott
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