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Schmidts Chilled Cylinder - now crank case


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Old 05-16-2005, 11:14:08 PM
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I need to see how the fuel tank/system is on the 3hp Schmidts chilled cyl engine is arranged--please post a pic or send to me,
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Old 05-17-2005, 02:52:01 PM
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Default Re: Schmidts Chilled cyl

d,j just fresh taken at our engine show last weekend, don't know more about it. Hope it helps you.



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Old 05-17-2005, 05:23:25 PM
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I have a color picture from the catalog but it is too large a file to post here.
If you email me, I can email the scanned picture. The tank is a gravity fed system to the lunkenheimer updraft mixer. Tank is clamped on to the fuel/air mixure pipe. Mike
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Thanks guys--as were at it--how does the con rod get oiled??? the crankshaft is not drilled--and it is a open crankcase--how the heck does it oil??
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The cap on the end of the connecting rod has a little snout that scoops up oil while the engine is running. Like a splash; but more a scooping action. So; you need some oil in the sump. And there should be a drain plug.
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I understand what you said--what I don't ubnderstand--how the hell do you keep out the dirt--it is a open crankcase????
any help here?
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I guess its a rare odd-ball engine. If it was a good design there might be more made and more around. I guess. One thing for sure its no IHC. If I had to go back in time and buy and engine for real use, it sure not be this one. My choice would be IHC for nice running, good quality. Oh well, I'm getting dangerously close to a trivia topic.
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I never thought to take side view photos, but here are a couple of Schmidt's on this page:
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OK--I took a picture of the opening/s on the Schmidts Chilled cyl--how in the world does it NOT splash oil al over the place--if--the rod uses a dipper--if you left the crankcase cover off of any closed case engine--you would be very oily-i think--don;t seem reasonable to me. the case is open on both sides the same.
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Default Re: Schmidts Chilled Cylinder - now crank case

On top of the oiling problems, the crankshafts on these engines were WAY too small in diameter for the total length of the shaft, and had a tendency to twist on the pulley side. Also the connecting rod is so short, the piston will scuff the cylinder on the load side..But they sure are fun to look at and play with!!

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on my schmidt eng the wrist pin is oiled by the oiler in the side of the cyl.
the wrist pin is drilled thru and has a hole drilled in the bottom of the pin.
if you take the oiler off the cyl you will notice that the end of the wrist pin will appear in the pipe hole when your turning the eng over. also there is no sump on these engs for any oil. dick-ct
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Default Re: Schmidts Chilled Cylinder - now crank case

My Schmidts has a small grease cup on the conecting rod on the crank end.

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Default Re: Schmidts Chilled Cylinder - now crank case

My Schmidts has a grease cup on the top of the rod bearing cap for the rod bearing. The drawing in the owners manual shows the grease cup in this location.
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Mine is on the bottom of the rod so you can reach from under and grease the journal before starting.

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Someone sent me a drawing from a book about how things work??-the picture was so large that it locked up my computer--I had to have the ISP--delete it-so I could use my e-mail--and I did not get the name--I would like them to resend, smaller--640 by 480 is good--the other one was over 1000k-acc the isp-and I think davids engine has a greaser--on his rod--there is no room for a greaser on mine--you can just barely slide a finger bettween the rod [cap] and the bottom of the crankcase--about 1/2 inch clearance--no room for a greaser
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Default Re: Schmidts Chilled Cylinder - now crank case

I guess they changed the design at some point...(this one is #5618) I didn't know any of them had a sump...How in the world do you get to the rod bearing to adjust it?...Shore ain't much room in those side openings!

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The only way I can get at the rod -is to pull the cylinder off!!!
what a snafu outfit,
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