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Old 07-05-2005, 08:17:24 PM
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Default Castiron or steel

I just took my 8 hp famous cylinder to the machine shop to be sleved. The machinest ask if I wanted a castiron or steel sleve. The cost appears to be about the same. What is the pros and cons to the two types of metal? What about piston clearence if steel is used.

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Use cast iron The rings will be much easier to seat. We have used a few steel sleeves and have not liked them very well. Keven
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Default Re: Castiron or steel

Go with cast as Keven already suggested, CI is better for wear and oil surface retention than steel, but you can use steel if you are careful with ring material selection.

Most liners are centrifugally cast, cast iron.

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ci can handle the heat a little better than the steel liner can
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Default Re: Castiron or steel

I don't know how much material your taking out, but you could sleeve the piston instead (steel works well) . My grandfather has done this with much success. Good luck to you.
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Default Re: Cast Iron or Steel

I have sold both Centrifugally Cast and Continuous Cast Iron to be used for sleeves and both have worked well but you definitely need to use Gray Iron. Ductile Iron is stronger than Gray Iron but it does not have the wear properties that Gray Iron has.

I have a 1-3/4 HP Economy engine that was sleeved with a steel sleeve before I bought it and it has always had blow-by and low compression problems. I know there are many factors that can cause these problems but I have had several folks look at the engine and comment on how they don't think the rings have ever seated correctly due to that steel sleeve.

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