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doesn't look like we will be doing much work in shop this winter if these a!@%#@*!@ crank up...

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Old 10-14-2005, 09:06 PM
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doesn't look like we will be doing much work in shop this winter if these a!@%#@*!@ crank up price on heating fuel, darn it again
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Old 10-14-2005, 09:31 PM
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Time for a wood stove. That is what we have and it works very well. We sheetrocked the 30x36 shop last summer, and now all we have to do is fire the stove with about 4 logs in the morning and it is good for the day. I was supprized how well it held the heat over the winter.
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If you are going to burn wood, I would look into a pellet stove. Fill the hopper and you are good for an entire day.
Time was when you were pretty much on your own with one of these - Weren't that many places willing to go into pellet manufacturing because they were skeptical of how popular the stoves would be. Stoves didn't sell big because of the questions about pellet availability. Now that things have worked out for both of them, they seem like a good choice.
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doesn't look like we will be doing much work in shop this winter if these a!@%#@*!@ crank up price on heating fuel, darn it again
One thing to remember is that keeping heat IN the workshop can be much cheaper than putting it in afterwards!

Insulating walls and ceilings and fitting double glazing to the windows, even polythene sheeting, can dramatically improve the warmth factor, and a small electric heater kept running overnight can provide all the background warmth you need.

Our workshop is part of the houser, but we haven't put any heating in yet as we have never found it necessary. Stays cool in summer too.

Peter
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firewood is nice but with zoning on building ,that is not any option, zoning in this twp. will not allow it what so ever,,,in garage, struck with natural gas, i do have my garage insulated , r-30 in wall & celling no windows,, what you can not see, you don't want to steal. lol
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How about a Corn Stove ????

Support your local farmers.

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How about a Corn Stove ????

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no still would not pass code, they are just being a pia
has to be gas fed no solid fuels ( i just don't get it) some one it linning someone shorts. just deal wtih it, like every thing else here in USA, could be worst i quess!
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If a wood or other 'solid fueled' stove is not an option, I have seen an approach that seemed to work pretty well for the guy that had it in his shop. He had (2) 50 gal electric water heaters connected with the outlet of one going to the inlet on the other (if they were batteries they would be considered connected in series) these were piped to 3 small automotive radiators (with the electric fans attached) spaced along the one wall of the shop and he had a small circulator pump on the return to keep it flowing. He ran a 25% mix of antifreeze in this system for protection against freezing. It kept his shop fairly comfortable in the dead of winter. Since there is no flame involved it is safe too. Yes, it used quite a bit of electricity, but he felt he was still better off than buying a gas furnace or space heater and paying for gas to feed it. Our local gas utility charges a minimum fee every month to keep an account active, even if you don't use any gas. All the components of his system were pretty much salvaged from scrap or purchased used (cheap). I always thought it ws pretty ingenious and resourceful.
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thank you all for the returns, but i just going to stick it out with natural gas
, its just upsetting, we get gas coming down, then some other resource goes, they say thae electric i going to do the same thing
dam all this,,, the blue collar worker does,nt have a chance
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Just a little advice for anyone that lives in a colder climate and is thinking of building a shop,i would put piping in the floor before pouring the concrete. I have this system in my shop and it works great.I heat the shop all winter and keep it 70 degrees. I use a 40 gallon electric hot water tank. it takes about a week to get the whole floor warm when you first turn it on, but after that it takes very little to maintain the temp. I use electric because the price stays more stable and doesn't flucuate like gas.There is only one downside to this type of hydronic system and that is if you have a warm day in winter you can't change the temp in a hurry.
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Rudy, floor heat is becoming the norm in new construction in the North Country.
You're right, it's really the best way to heat.
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They build these outdoor wood stoves locally for heating via floor heat or ties into your forced air system. Keeps the mess outside.

http://www.heatsource1.com/main.php.html
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Our State Farm Policy forbids wood stoves in a garage or shop so.. At present I plan to install a used motor oil furnace that I picked up several years ago for my dream shop.. But I hope to install the pipe in the floor for hot water heat and buy an outdoor wood/coal stove to serve both the shop and the house.. We have a limited amount of free Nat. gas from the farm well and even that only lasts about 10 mos. I feel the outdoor stove would eliminate my overage bill and pay for itself in time while keeping my shop toasty all winter.. Wood is no problem and I enjoy doing it.. That's my plan anyhow.. Randy Hart Ohio
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well Randy
will do a little wood for house,have enought wood for house for 5 years, but
melon's don't work well, when cold. lol
price for gas at work for vehicles friday was 2.23, but diesel was 3.47
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