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Old 12-25-2006, 08:50 PM
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Gee, I have a 50/50 chance of being right. I would guess the flat top whistle.
My reason being, all the Keck engines from that time period, late teens, early 20s, that I have seen, had a flat top whistle. My old photos of #676 and others from that period, show a round top acorn whistle. But this is just my humble opinion.
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The one on the outside looks close to the one that came with mine, I realy don't know. After looking at your parts list it could be eather one.
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Old 12-27-2006, 11:01 AM
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Andy, I think you need to let me come and get that 'ol piece of scrap iron.
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I don't think that the scrap dealer will give you eonugh to pay for your gas and I would hate for you to come out upside down on the deal. 3 of the wheels are in good shape but the right rear has had better days. It already has 2 blacksmith repairs where they riveted steel bands on the inside and I found 2 more places that must be repaired. I will probably fix it the same way it was done many years ago. All of the wood is rotten beyond saving but should be good enough for a pattern. The tank is in pretty rough shape and its about 50/50 for repair or replace. I guess that I am now in the market for a meyers pump as well.
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Here is KG 1814, 22 horse, restoration in progress.
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I would like a little closer look at the front wheels, are those bolt on skid bands or rubber pads?
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They Are Bolt On. I Will Try To Get A Better Pic On Later.
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My engine has the same thing, there is two. how maney more are there?
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Here is KG 1814, 22 horse, restoration in progress.

I see you chose to go with the optional KGC "Moon Roof".
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They Are Bolt On. I Will Try To Get A Better Pic On Later.
Here is a better pic of the front wheels. Yes, decided to go with the moon roof, air conditioning was not an option.
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Tom, have you located the Keck portable said to be in a museum somewhere up around you? Sure would be nice to get a picture of that, hint, hint.

You most likely are working too hard anyway and need a day off....

Are you still good for another road trip, or did the last one scare you too badly? It was neat how you got the rental car in an authentic Keck Gonnerman green. After being to a steam engine show and back, I bet you will need to find another place to rent cars from in the future...
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You know, that soot and ash kinda burns into the paint. I parked it in the back lot, tossed them the keys, and kept on truckin'. I'm ready for the road trip!
As for as the Keck portable, Wayne thought it was in Viriginia somewhere, I think. Don't remember, you know when you are my age, memory is the 2nd thing to go, ......don't remember the 1st. He said years ago, they went and seen one. I'll try to get some more info from him.
If anyone here on the stack knows of the whereabouts of one, or even a picture they could post, I would deeply appreciate it!
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1615, Speaking of memory loss, was it you or Tree that has a spark arrestor for a Keck? I was wanting to borrow one and fabricate a scale version for our engine. Seems that my off bearers are getting tires of getting burnt by flying cinders And then there was that time someone was upset when I had a few cinders fly out and get on some flea market vendors at a show...forgot to turn off the blower when I started moving again...

I must say that I have never seen a spark arrestor on an Keck, seems that either most were taken off or this was not a common option?
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Tree has one of mine he was going to use as a pattern. They were standard equipment when you bought your shiney new Keck Gonnerman. But like anything else that was not kept with the engine, they usually got sat aside and lost. I found my Grandpa's spark arrester last year in the woods near where his saw mill used to be. And Grandpa quit sawing with steam in 1955.
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Does anyone in Keck land know what happened to the Keck engine 1883 that was in Sedala, Mo? Does anybody have pics of a Keck with a U tank on it? Thank you!
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My buddy David, in Henderson, KY, has an 18 horse with a "U" tank on it. I have some pics. somewhere, I'll try and find them and post them for you. As for as 1883, I have to go to Sedalia, MO in a couple of weeks and pick up an item I recently bought. I'll inquire about it. Here are three old pics. of a Keck engine with the "U" tank.
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By the way Tom, is that a Keck thresher in the first pic??
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I beleive it's a Red River Special.
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I knew it wasn't an Aultman-Taylor!! Look at all those FAT chickens eating undr it.
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I have aquired a rather old KG catalog - I think ~ 1910ish. The front page shows KG952 - what year was this engine made?

In it, it had a view of the U tanks on the early engines. I have scanned it and it is below. It is interesting to note in the book Keck mentions - "The Platform Tanks, we make them of various styles. If none is specified , will furnish what we think is most suitable for the engine" Guess you better had said something when you bought it or forever hold your peace. Were other companies this liberal in their offerings?

A few other tidbits. It shows a cut of a boiler with the steam pipe coming from the dome thru the flue sheet, up the stack and back out. This is the same arrangement the KG engine had at the Farmer City auction a few months ago. Was this Kecks attampt at a superheater?

Also - it shows a KG corn sheller - Now if anyone can come up with one of these I would be impressed. They even had the grain bins in the catalog to go with the sheller

I will try and get scans of some of the other interesting items.

Tom - The have the price for the sqaure tank water wagon with pump - $76.00
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A few other tidbits. It shows a cut of a boiler with the steam pipe coming from the dome thru the flue sheet, up the stack and back out. This is the same arrangement the KG engine had at the Farmer City auction a few months ago. Was this Kecks attampt at a superheater?

Tom - The have the price for the sqaure tank water wagon with pump - $76.00
This is what most folks call a dry pipe. By putting the supply pipe inside the boiler you can reduce the heat loss before the steam gets to the cylinder. You might get a tiny bit of superheating in the stack but I don't think that was the reason for doing it. I think that this feature is common on Advance engines. I never knew that keck did it though.

P.S. I'm in the market for a pump to put on my water wagon.
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