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Need help with finishing my pump that will go on a Monitor I just got running. I have a 1 7/8...

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Old 06-02-2001, 09:20 PM
Dan Bogart
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Need help with finishing my pump that will go on a Monitor I just got running. I have a 1 7/8 cylinder and a bottom check valve but I need a plunger and upper check valve. Any ideas on how to build one? (My wife is watching me so I cant buy a new one.)
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Old 06-03-2001, 03:44 PM
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Take a 1 1/2 inch washer or slightly less diameter than the cylinder. Take a valve tappet from a small engine. Place a rubber washer under the tappet. Invert the tappet so the stem goes through the hole in the washer. (You can also use a brass ball such as what is used in Delta one handle faucets.) Weld three equidistant legs on the top of the washer and attach a 3/8 nut to them. (The 3/8 well rod will be screwed into this nut.) Weld three legs on the bottom of the washer and weld a three inch all thread rod (3/8) to the center of the legs. (All the legs should be welded to the outer circumference on the washer.) Screw a 3/8 nut so it bottoms out. Then place a slightly smaller metal washer on the bottom of the nut, then a rubber washer, another metal washer, a rubber washer, and a metal washer. (These washers are slightly smaller than the cylinder and loose fitting. Secure the washers with a locking nut or two nuts. It works, and it will save you a hundred bucks, but it takes some time to build.
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For about $30 you can buy a replacement plunger including leather ring for an old pitcher pump. This has the requisite 3/8" rod socket, but you are stuck with the standard cylinder diameter. In most cases, this will fit the inside of a full size pump base and with a bit of cylinder honing, you'll have a suitable fit. You also have to find an old stock hardware or plumbing shop that doesn't require bar codes.

So far, I've done this to an Eclipse and a Fuller Johnson with a Monitor yet to go.

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Old 06-03-2001, 05:02 PM
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Forget about my first message as I just found an easier method. Since you already have the check valve in the bottom, all you need is the plunger. Use a 3/8 all thread rod. About three inches from one end, put a locking nut. Place a metal washer next to it (be sure the washer slides easily in the cylinder), then a rubber washer slightly smaller than the cylinder, metal washer, rubber washer, metal washer, rubber washer, metal washer and then a locking nut. Be sure the washers have about 1/16 inch play between them. The rubber washers will bend somewhat to allow the water to pass around them. You don't have to prime the cylinder unless you want to.
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Old 06-03-2001, 05:07 PM
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Sorry, Harry, my second message should have been in response to my first message. You have a workable method, also. Your site is the best on the web. Thanks. Larry
 


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