Engine identification (Ford Model F)

[davehj]

i inherited this motor and am looking to get some information on it. does anyone know what year or manufacturer it may be? i am hoping to get an idea of it's value.

[Tom Cwach]

I don't know what brand but it looks like an early automobile engine to me

[Stuart Hale]

Hi,

Actually it looks like a 2 cylinder REO engine for an early car. Probably from 1905 to about 1910.

Stuart

[Roger Byrne]

The engine is from a Model "F" Ford of about 1905. I helped the owner disassemble it yesterday. It will go into a car that is being reconstructed in Iowa. Many of the parts for the car are from new castings or are being machined from solid stock using original Ford blueprints. The wood body is being built with the help of an original body and factory prints. It's a major undertaking that may be done sometime in 2009.

[Roger Byrne]

This is an update on what is happening to the engine at the beginning of this thread. It is well on it's way to becoming a car!
If you check out this Web Site http://www.dunlavy.us/modelf/modelf.html you can see the progress on the project. Dave has almost all the castings now and much of the body is completed. As you go down through the sections he has listed, you can see all the different parts and stages of restoration. If you look towards the end of the engine section, you can see yours truly doing a little work on the engine. The engine turned out to be in great condition and just needed a standard overhaul. Dave's car will be a great re-creation not unlike the Holt on another thread (but on a lot smaller scale). At the rate he is going, I would expect that he will have it done in early 2009.

[Jordan]

simply amazing. keep up the good work

jordan

[Roger Byrne]

I thought it was time for an update on the Model F project. Here is a set of photos showing the engine and planetary transmission (which are fully rebuilt) setting in the frame along with a photo of the differential parts. There is still a lot of parts to be fabricated/rebuilt for the transmission and power train, but Dave has his project is well on it's way now.

[Roger Byrne]

Here are some pictures of the body he had built for the car. It was fabricated from factory blueprints and measurements taken from an original body. A true masterpiece of woodworking. The body is now at an upholstery shop to have the leatherwork done. If you check back a couple of postings, you can see what Dave's car will look like when it's done. You have to really admire a guy's ambition (and pocketbook) that goes through all the work involved in a project like this.

[darrin]

very nice!!!!!Lots of talent thanks for the pics.
Darrin

[Roger Byrne]

Here is an up-date on the project. Last Saturday a milestone in the restoration/recreation of Dave Dunlavy's Model F Ford was accomplished. I went down early and helped in getting the engine running for the first time. My involvement with the project consists with coaching him with his fabrication of parts and technical assistance as needed.

Here is a link to the first starting.http://www.dunlavy.us/modelf/fengine.html

Dave is the guy in the red shirt doing the cranking and I'm the guy on the floor working with the carb and timer. I only set it up to run for a minute by only having just the carb full of gas. With all the potential problems, I didn't want flooding to be one of them. After this initial start-up, the gas tank was hitched up and the engine started/run several times during the morning. After a few adjustment the engine ran smooth and started easily. Dave was one happy guy! There is still lots of work to do, but I think the chassis may be drivable by the end of the year and the car finished by spring.

[OTTO-Sawyer]

Beautiful looking project there. It's amazing what a person can do starting from a single part, in this case and engine.

Nice to see people with the funds to do so getting involved with hobbies like this instead of sailing around on a private yacht with people named Biff, and Buffy. Maybe they do that too, (I don't know their financial status and don't need to), if so, then I appologize if I offended them.

In any case, TWO THUMBS UP on a project well done !

[Roger Byrne]

Here are some up-date photos of how the Model F Ford is coming along. The chassis is basically completed with the steering and brake/transmission controls the next things that need to be done. The differential in now complete and it is standing on all fours.

[Roger Byrne]

The body was placed on the chassis to check the fit of the dash and several other parts that need to be positioned.

[Roger Byrne]

A few more misc photos. . . . . I think Dave may be taking a ride in his car some time this fall.

[Kevin Pate]

Awesome build. Quick question concerning the engine: The brass tank on top of the engine is that an oil tank for theoilers or is that for something else?????

[Roger Byrne]

Yes Kevin, the tank holds the oil for the engine. The tank is pressurized from the crankcase pressure and the oil is fed through the drip valves, to the oil lines and into the bearings. It is a tough system to regulate because of the pressure changes and was replaced by Ford in his future engines. They later used a positive displacement pump driven off the front of the engine to feed oil to the bearings. Below is a photo of the oil pump on Dave's Model S Ford.