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Van Norman Owners ?


Proud owner of a Van Norman No.12 anyone else here ?:wave:

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Old 08-26-2006, 07:45 PM
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Proud owner of a Van Norman No.12 anyone else here ?
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Old 08-26-2006, 09:28 PM
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I have 3 22-LU's. One out of toolroom has every gadget VN ever made.

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Old 08-27-2006, 08:15 AM
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I have quite a bit of tooling but no serious gadgets I want a vise and rotary table but the I want it the same approx. age as the mill. A guy @ work who had one scrapped his out and gave me all of his tooling except for the vise and table.I'm also on the van norman Yahoo group
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Old 08-28-2006, 10:57 AM
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I have a VN 12 and use it about every day, I have a Carroll dividing head for it and have a good selection of 5V collets. It is powered by a 1 1/2 HP DC motor with a solid state speed control, I also have the right angle head adaptor for it which is great for boring cylinders and line boring mains on some of the model engines I build. I also have a VN #20 powered by a 3HP DC motor with solid state control, that is equipped with a complete set of collets, rotary table, a universal VN dividing head with all the driving gears plus many other accessories. My son has a VN size 1/2, a great little machine, the only one I have ever saw it takes 5V collets.
I LOVE THAT #12- A GREAT MACHINE

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Old 08-29-2006, 12:29 PM
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Do you have any 3/4 toolholders ?
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Old 08-30-2006, 09:33 PM
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I have a 3/4 collet for the VN # 20 but not for the # 12. The largest I have for the # 12 is 5/8. I had considered making one for the # 12 but I think it would be a little hard on the spindle because if I had one I would probably use the largest end mill I have with a 3/4 shank and end up in trouble. I will use the # 20 for my heavy work
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Old 08-30-2006, 10:39 PM
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I hadn't thought about it too much ,I have shell mills in excess of 4.5", 2.5"deep and have yet to stall it . I have a ton of 3/4 end mills and thought it would be great to use them. When my old employer went put of business they liquidated everything but the machines I have complete tap and die sets from 2mm to 36mm and 5 40tpi to 2.5" numerous boring bars and end mills of every dimension .The only thing I couldn't get was a vise . My current employer put my machine up for sealed bid and that is how I got that . I grabbed the 3/4 tools because I thought I could get a Bridgeport when they closed the doors.
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Old 02-25-2007, 08:19 AM
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i have a VN 1\2 mill with some tooling,,very rugged little mill,perfect size for the homeowner,,i have a lot of fun with this mill and yes there are only a few of these 1\2 models around.
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Old 09-24-2007, 07:11 PM
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Hello All: I also have a VN#12. It is a 1941 model from a Navy Battleship. I have had it for over thirty years. Have most of the accessories to go with it. Have built over forty model engines with it over the years. Have two dividing heads and cut my own gears for models and full size engines also. Great little machine. I have added power feed to the knee and use this for boring a lot. I use Trav-a-dial indicators for X & Y axis. Works great for me.
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I have a 1/2. Here are some resources:

There is a Van Norman group on Yahoo.

Jeff Beck at Tools4Cheap.net (NOT .com) sells 5V collets, end mill holders, and shell mill arbors.

I have not found a source for horizontal arbors.

They are great machines. Enjoy.
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Hey got a no.12 changed the taper in the quill,I got it back in 1993 no way to find collets,so I ground out spindel shaft on an old 24'' swing lathe with domore grinder carbide burrs 120 grit stone to finish R 8 now lots of work but look at all the fun
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I seen you had some pics up about,reconditioning I hav a bad spot when trans verse table got a loose spot in the table and it will woble if I get carried away,take to big of cut.Is the table on some sort of bearings.I don't no I didn't take min apart just adj. gibs on the front,is yours apart,that far you could put a pic up so I no whats in there,so I can have an easer time figuring mine out woulh apriciate it?? thanks
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I have a Van Norman Engine Boring Bar made in Springfield, Mass
I have used it to bore out Vintage American Indian Motorcycle Cylinders over the last 15 odd years
Indians were made in Springfield,Mass as well
So i tell people it was factory tooling that i am using
I also have a Van Dorn valve seat grinding setup
Was that Van Normans Cousin
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I have one of the Van Norman boring bars as well. It does a nice job for its size and just a fast as the large boring machine. I also have a VN piston grinder and a crankshaft grinder. Both get used for many other projects.

Chris

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I got a portable borin bar,it name plate sayes Storm,any one no who these were made by,I can't put up a picture yet,so ,it got about 15'' depth with2 cutting heads never measured max.bore size I'd say6'' at least
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It could be Storm Vulcan.
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It could be Storm Vulcan.
Yep,Im' an old feller,for got more than most of these people on here,whill no.LMAO I'm OK just can't remember like I used to '' most people won't admit But tellin it like it is,more information on here, than I ever thought possible,I'mjust an old self taught person,never finished school,taught my self every thing,including TYPING,on here,Im glad to find some place to inform or help if I can,others,like wise I'm not perfect,never ever every thing in 2 life times but don't quit learnin.Un less you no it all???????? Thanks stoner
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I've got a Van Norman #26, which I believe was built in 1943 from the serial number listings I've seen. 50-taper spindle with 3 HP, and 2 HP on the power feed.

VN made great machines, real workhorses.

-Carl
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I have a small Milling duplex Van Norman #0 Patent date is Nov 3 96 (1896)
Here is a link to Flickr http://www.flickr.com/search/?s=rec&...+norman&m=tags
I will try to add the pricture to your gallery.
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I own a V-N #6. It was my first mill. A Bridgeport clone supplements it, now; but, I'll never get rid of my #6.

I got very lucky when I bought mine; all of the literature came with it. Much of it pertains to the #12 because V-N never published an operating manual for the #6.

I scanned all the paperwork and blueprints and put it onto a CD. Once-upon-a-time I made it available on too generous terms; now, to recover my costs I have to charge $10 for it. So far, I've never had anyone complain about the CD or the amount I charge for it.

If interested, send me a PM.

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