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Less than 10 (Rare Engines)


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Old 11-20-2006, 10:06 PM
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4hp Wogaman gearless. Only six are known to exist plus one hopper cooled "geared" engine and the remains of a 6-cycle air cooled.

Another, not in the collection yet, is the M. Steiner built in Dayton, OH. We can account for a total of 6-8 of these engines currently. Let me know if someone has a surplus one of these laying around his collection as we would love to bring it home!
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I've seen a Heathcock & Rush engine displayed at the Adams, Tennessee show in past years. These were made in Jackson, TN. I don't know of any others. I've also seen a few Southern engines displayed at Adams. These were also produced in Jackson. There may be more than ten of them left, but there can't be many.
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Old 11-20-2006, 10:10 PM
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Bill, where is the 12 Heathcock Rush you know of? I know of mine and one in west TN. Heathcock made 2 models. Mine is the tank cooled with upright flyball governor. I've attached a photo. I left off a 4 HP Callahan. I would guess there is probably about 6 or 7 of them.
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Old 11-20-2006, 10:13 PM
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Tom, in total there is probably a dozen Southern Engine and Boiler Works enines around. Each is different though. Mine is a 6 HP, Hopper Cooled with the big upright flyball governor (most of the ones have the gov. on the sideshaft). Mine is very similar to the one in Wendel's book.
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Old 11-20-2006, 10:25 PM
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I have seen only 5 Industraial Iron Works, I know where all 5 are

I Know of only one complete Bingo, 3 were made, the other 2 are parts only, a friend of mine owns the running one.

I've seen only 1 Fairbanks Improved in one cylinder and 2 of them of the two cylinder design


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Old 11-20-2006, 10:33 PM
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I can count only six San Francisco Pacific engines. I have a 1 HP marine.
I know of only two 12 HP Reeves Pulley engines. I have one.
I have a 12 HP Alamo,hopper cooled, three ball governor type. I think there are less than ten out there.
I know of only six 7 HP early style Westerns, I have one.
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Old 11-20-2006, 10:34 PM
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Living in Jackson, TN, I am very familiar with Heathcock-Rush Machine Co. and Southern Engine and Boiler Works. I have documented (8) Heathcock-Rush engines and (9) Southern Engine & Boiler Works engine. The Southern engine plant still stands and is being preserved by a local steel company.

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I know of a few pretty rare ones.

Goldengate: One in Washington, a couple in California, Heard of one in Nevada, and one in Ohio? or one of those states near by.

Palmer & Ray Hercules, built in San Fransisco CA: I believe there's only a few of those out there. Attached is a couple pics of a friends Palmer at the Pendleton, Oregon show in June

Pacific: Only 2 that I know of.
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Old 11-20-2006, 11:25 PM
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Sorry no dig pics to show but there are 6 or 7 George Green engines around 1 5hp That i have seen and the rest 1 hp. all tank cooled with really heavy fwsThe odd thing is that the fws are held to the crank shaft by a big nut and are tightened against a shoulder. Made in Seargantsvilee NJ around 1903 not in the byb
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Old 11-21-2006, 12:09 AM
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George;

Here's my entry in this "contest". Does the winner get free tickets to the Super Bowl?

I saw this engine at the Portland show this summer and it fasinated me, of course I'm easly fasinated. I don't know Mr. Turner and didn't get a chance to talk to him either, however I did take the opportunity to take these two pictures. Sorry I didn't take a few more close ups, but I was in a hurry, because I was on my way to meet with the "Guys" at the stakrs photo op.

I have never seen another one like it, but there are a "bunch" of engines I have never seen. I thought the precise machining of surfaces was of interest, as well as the water pump.

"DELCO DON" Southern Illinois
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How about 3 HP Fairbanks Morse Z ignitor Screencooled engines.I know of 4 besides mine.
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How about 3 HP Fairbanks Morse Z ignitor Screencooled engines.I know of 4 besides mine.
I know of one in Oregon, one in Montana, and one in Nebraska.
Plus I've seen some in GEM over the years. So I'm sure there are quite a few more than 10 of them around.
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I used to own a two hp tank cooled Lennox. I think it is the only one known. Also have a 10 hp Ottawa, there are only five of them known. A friend has a 12 hp Ottawa the only complete one and a 16 hp Ottawa which is the only surviving example
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here are a few:

sombart hydrogen engine, only ONE known , many more were built. engine on permanant display at coolspring.

22 hp goold, shapley, muir 2cyl opposed. (different than the version used on their tractors) will be headed to coolspring next year. (6 known?)

major pump engine (has a pendulum governor) (# known--???)

30 hp backus (# known--???)
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Charter-Mietz I have a 4 HP expermental-teaching engine?, Dusty Erricson wrote a book on Mietz and Weiss engines, which was the precursor to C-M, when Charter bought them out. Dusty saw my engine at Coolspring last summer - told me it was one of a kind - many different features from the standard 4 HP C-M. Dusty only knows of 4 other 4 HP C-Ms, and perhaps 7 C-M engines total. I personally have heard of 3 more, a 4 HP (for a total of 5)a 5? HP and an 8 HP vertical. I have also been told there is a C-M like mine -in severe distress on Long Island, but the informant would not divulge its resting place. Charter - Mietz is in the BYB, and is mentioned in Dusty's book on the M&W engines. My C-M was just featured in GEM, with a lot of Pix. How'd I do?
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I have 2 -- a 9hp Alamo Pan Cooled Special portable engine, --saw a photo of another one but its different. 20HP Brown Cochran -only one known.--John
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Old 11-21-2006, 06:48 AM
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Bill Haxton in Northboro Ma. has the only known horizontal greendale, There are about 20 verticals around but his 10 HP is the only known Horz. They were made in Worcester MA.
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Here is a 4 hp Emery Bros. 4-cycle marine engine serial #98 in the Kennebunkport Historical Society. Emery Bros. produced about 100 engines of one to four cylinders in Kennebunk, Maine, but most if not all went into salt water service and I don't think any others are left.
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This one belongs to a mate of mine. It is a 1900 Crossley OO portable. Apparantly there were only six of these built.
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Another rare English engine is this Dudbridge Oil Engine. So far it is the only one of this style we have come across.

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