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Hi Folks, A rainy Sunday afternoon here in eastern NC. A freind of mine has told me of an old Star...

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Old 12-03-2006, 06:06 PM
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Hi Folks,

A rainy Sunday afternoon here in eastern NC. A freind of mine has told me of an old Star automobile that has been sitting in the woods not far from here for a long time. I plan to go and have a look at it soon and may post some photos of whatever is left. I have never seen one at any car shows that I can think of, even Hershey. I did some research and found that they were made by the Durant company back in the twenties and had Continental engines. Has anyone ever seen one ??

Mark
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There is the front half of one sitting on a pole out near Abilene, Tx. It looks to be of about 1927 vintage, and looks like a Chevrolet-class car. I don't know of any others.
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There is some chat about Star auto on this site http://www.oldmarineengine.com There they say there was 3 different Star companys. I wonder if there is a relation to Star Tractors as well. Dan Sheldon
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Old 12-03-2006, 11:18 PM
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According to The "Standard Catalog of American Cars" The Star automobile was made by Durant from 1922-28 as a car to compete with the Model T Ford. A 35 HP on a 102" WB was offered all those years and a 40 HP six was offered in 1926-27. Durant produced 100,000 Stars in 1923. There still are a few around in collectors hands.
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Many star automobiles were scrapped out for the engine. they were used in many commercial fishing boats.there were two star powered boats at fish harbor( san pedro, ca.) when we had our boat there in early 60's.
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Here's one in Durango, Colorado - Jeannie Matthews and Mr. Smith. 2004 photo by Harry.
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There were many companies in the early 1900's that built cars with name of Star. The best known one, Star Automoblie Co. was a division of Durant Auto Co. Willy Durant was the founder of General Motors. He left GM in the early 20's and founded the Durant Co. He designed the Star to compete with Ford's Model T and Chrysler's Maxwell/Plymouth.
Dad had a Star runabout years ago. I don't remember much about it. I recently adapted a pair of Star front wheels to a Model TT one ton truck I'm rebuilding.
I'm restoring an Aultman Star steam engine right now, but that's no relation at all.
It would really be neat if you found a car built by one of the other Star companies. That might be a really nice old brass radiator car.

Hope all this rambling helps some.
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Here's one in Durango, Colorado - Jeannie Matthews and Mr. Smith. 2004 photo by Harry.
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Mr. Smith, eh?? I thought you'd done broke her of that habit. Tell her to behave! Nyuk, nyuk!

BTW, I got the original jug for my Jack of All Trades from the son of the first owner of the engine in trade for a couple of 4.50 X 21 split rims for a 1926 Star that his dad had cut down into a pickup and used as a service truck.

The starter ring gear wore out in two places (where the 4-banger engine naturally stopped). This would make the starter gears lock occasionally. He fixed it by unbolting the 4 bolts that held the flywheel to the crankshaft and turning the wheel 1/4 turn then rebolting it. This put "fresh" teeth in the line of fire.

Take care - Elden
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Hi Folks,

A rainy Sunday afternoon here in eastern NC. A freind of mine has told me of an old Star automobile that has been sitting in the woods not far from here for a long time. Has anyone ever seen one ??

Mark
Mark,
I drove one in 1964. An old friend owned a beautifully restored 1925 (?) Star Deluxe Coupe. The Deluxe Coupe had the top and rear quarters of the top covered with grain top material. I can't remember if it had "S" side irons or not, as I had a 1924 Oakland Coupe that had them and my old foggy mind doesn't always work well these days, allowing me to get confused easily.

This friend couldn't attend a local statewide old car rally and asked if I'd take it for him. I'd have rather taken his 1914 Canadian Model T Tourning Car, but was elated to be in charge of this Star for a weekend. Somewhere, I have pictures. Now I'll have to go dig.
Gary
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Here's a Star mystery for all you Star hobbyists:
Auto'ble Qtlys 1971 book (American Cars Since 1775) lists( with gas engines):
Star 1903-4 Cleveland, OH
Star 1907-8 Indiana (later "Mier" and "Izzer" 1908-9-10)
Star 1909 Minn, Minn
Star 1910 Indianapolis, IN (one car made)
Star cyclecar 1914 LA, Cal
Star (Durant) 1922-28 Lansing, MI (all these under "Auto m'f'r's)
Star (Truck) 1914-15 Ann Arbor, Mich
Star (Truck) (Durant) (Lansing) 1922-27 (these two under "Truck m'f'r's)

Now: a 1924 piston catalog shows:
Star.......all.......(no years shown).......Cont 6Y (4cyl)
Star...70,76,N,2-21/2Ton...1919..........Cont CA-C 4 (4cyl)

So: where did that 1919 Star truck (2-21/2Ton) come from???

Incidentally, that's a really nice book; it's just names and names and addresses of builders, no thumbnail histories like Mroz, but they're on Abe Books and Alibris for $5-6 (has considerable general overview history)

PS: The Star tractor was built in Findley, OH 1917/18/19 per tractor books.
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Hi Folks,

A rainy Sunday afternoon here in eastern NC. A freind of mine has told me of an old Star automobile that has been sitting in the woods not far from here for a long time. I plan to go and have a look at it soon and may post some photos of whatever is left. I have never seen one at any car shows that I can think of, even Hershey. I did some research and found that they were made by the Durant company back in the twenties and had Continental engines. Has anyone ever seen one ??

Mark
I have a 1925 Star coupe race car. Will be racing at Limestone, Me. for world speed trials vintage class end of July. Ck. out LTA.com or e-mail dladrigan@live.com
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Sorry, LTA.com does not work. Try loring timing asso. instead. or e-mail dladrigan@live.com
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I know the Old man had a Star. I never seen it but I know he took the back axel out and made a two wheeled cart for around the farm. The tires were hard rubber. I well remember that darn thing as it was so high to load things on.
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There's a little Star Coupe in Freeport, Illinois that shows up occasionally at the local car shows.

It's been 'modernized' though. Looks stock, but has a newer engine under the hood.

I have a few pictures of it somewhere, but with nearly 80,000 pictures on the computer and probably that many more locked up in my old dead computer, and tens of thousands of 35mm pictures to dig through, it will likely be a while before I can find them again.
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Star was bought out by Durant, and there were quite a few of them here in Ontario Can. From what I've been told they were a pretty good car. There are still two in this area. Durant was later bought out by Dodge Bros. Some Dodges of that era had a small D on the rear hub caps which denoted it as having a Durant rear end, trying to use up the old stock.
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OLDS: Your father just might've had one of my mystery Star trucks mentioned above(1919 21/2Ton listed in a 1924 piston catalog)...
It seems there was a Star Carraige Co that built "Northwestern" badged trucks 1913-33, 11/2, 2, 21/2 and 5 ton models, using Continental engines...
That would include the hard-rubber years, and a high bed would be on a heavier truck.
The only problem is that Star Carraige was located in Seattle, WA, a long way from your neck of the woods.
Oh, well, just another unsolved mystery.
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A fellow here in Texas has a nice restored one & it is FS
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I've got a 6 HP IHC engine mounted on whats left of a Star chassis...........
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Hi Mark I know of a Star up here in Pennsylvania. I believe it's a 1926 and it is a fixture at the Strausstown Lions Club car show every year They are beautiful cars and the was actually a Star Durant Garage in my little town outside of Reading PA.
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