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"New York Special" 28-50 Hart-Parr


To my own amazement I bought a tractor off ebay in February. Before the auction ended I was in...

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Old 03-28-2007, 09:35 PM
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To my own amazement I bought a tractor off ebay in February. Before the auction ended I was in contact with the seller and researched him before I put my final price in. As it turned out I got it. I finally got it home from Kansas last week and the whole transaction went perfect. When I saw it on ebay I noticed it had extremely heavy rear and front wheels. After getting it home and doing some research on it, I found out that Hart Parr called it a 'New York Special" tractor, mainly because of the heavy wheels. The rear wheels are not the wide wheels that sometimes you see, but the standard width ones but about 3 times the thickness. I am wondering if anybody knows a little more history on why HP called these the "New York Special". Was it because some concern in New York ordered some of these with this type wheel and then was decided to offer them for sale to other prospective customers?? These must of been used to pull something heavy like for grading roads where weight was needed on some kind of hard surface, but didn't need the extra width for traction. Hopefully someone can add some info.

The serial number shows it was built in 1930, about at the tailend of the Hart Parr lightweight models. The tractor was stuck but came loose very easily and the engine is in very good shape, but needs lots of TLC. The one main item I need is a 11 feed oiler for it.






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Nice find Dave, looks like a real straight tractor

My grandfather has a 28-50 with somewhat different rear wheels, but the same rear cleats and little or no front skid rings, same as you. He always said that it was a road special, where the cleats would dig in but not damage the road like a spade lug would. I've never heard reference to the New York Special, but if you find out anything I would be very interested to learn.

This is the only picture I have at the moment of his 28-50.

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Default Re: "New York Special" 28-50 Hart-Parr

I remember seeing that ol' girl on e-bay back in Feb. and I put an early bid on it. Congrats on getting it! Looks like it ought to be a good project.

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Nice find Dave, looks like a real straight tractor

My grandfather has a 28-50 with somewhat different rear wheels, but the same rear cleats and little or no front skid rings, same as you. He always said that it was a road special, where the cleats would dig in but not damage the road like a spade lug would. I've never heard reference to the New York Special, but if you find out anything I would be very interested to learn.

This is the only picture I have at the moment of his 28-50.

Tony B.
Tony,
Looks like the fronts on your dad's tractors are the heavy wheels also. The guide band is just a flat piece of steel, about 2 in. wide and originally about 1.5 in. thick. On most tractors the guide rib is cast right into the front wheel and with time and wear it gets worn down to just a little hump. Your rears are the standard late model 28-50 wheels with flat spokes. The early 28-50's with short fenders had the 8 spoke heavy wheels but not near as heavy as the "New York Special" ones.
Thanks for posting the photo.
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Default Re: "New York Special" 28-50 Hart-Parr

Nice find Dave,
not always easy to buy items on e-bay with all the competition looking on! I do not know a good deal about HP's, but I am learning thanks to you
Keep us posted on what you learn,and resto progress.
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Nice find Dave,
not always easy to buy items on e-bay with all the competition looking on! I do not know a good deal about HP's, but I am learning thanks to you
Keep us posted on what you learn,and resto progress.
Tony,
Things are looking pretty good inside the engine, and will take it apart to get a head start on the restoration process. The rings on the piston even popped loose, usually they are one big mass of rust. The crankshaft, bearings, valves, heads, cylinder walls are all good, with just minor surface rust on some of the cyl. walls. Will get busy for me in the field shortly. A few photos of the inerts.




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Dave

Congratulations to that Great Buy
Do you think about to put a cab on?
I really like those wheels.
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Dave, I May Have A Somewhat Complete 28-50 Lubricator.? Ill Look If You Need It? I Have A Real Nice 1927 28-50. The Iron Wheel On Front And Back Are Like New. It Has A Small Radiator. D. Babcock.
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Dave, I May Have A Somewhat Complete 28-50 Lubricator.? Ill Look If You Need It? I Have A Real Nice 1927 28-50. The Iron Wheel On Front And Back Are Like New. It Has A Small Radiator. D. Babcock.
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I have a wide Radiator one but i am always looking for an Narrow Radiator one
preferd with cab
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That's my HP28-50



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George,
Nice looking original tractor! A very good friend of mine has a 28-50 HP he's had torn down for years behind his house, right smack-dab in the middle of town. I've tried every way known to man to try to beg him into selling it to me, but no luck yet! "Gonna get to it someday"....
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Dave

Congratulations to that Great Buy
Do you think about to put a cab on?
I really like those wheels.
George,
I restored a 28-50 back in 1980, almost before you were hatched, and it had a cab. They really look nice, but after using it all these years for various work at our show and listening to the noise under the roof, I am ready for one in the open. You wouldn't think there would be "cab noise" but there is from the engine. This one didn't have a cab and will leave it that way. A note of interest, all the late 12-24's, 18-36's and 28-50's had a cab offered as an option.
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Heres A Photo Of My 1927 28-50.
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