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Old 02-26-2008, 05:34 PM
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I am thinking about getting a Hit and Miss engine, but I would like it to be small. What makes/models are small?
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Alek;

Maytags are hit and miss and will be the smallest you will find, that are affordable.

This is a start.


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Old 02-26-2008, 05:59 PM
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Ideal but pricey, carslisle and finch also very pricy.
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Old 02-26-2008, 07:16 PM
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fairbanks morse type z or headless type z they also can be pricey even 1 or 1-1/2 h.p you are goning to spend $$$$ make shure what ever get does not have cracks brakes welds ect...
a mag and oiler both can also cost big $$$$ esecially if you ned to rebuild the mag if you arent ok with rebuilding it yourself you will half to send it out more $$$$ are you looking for somthing restored or as project engine good luck. john
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sorry i ment you will have to send out the mag to somone who will rebuild it and also you want the engine to already have a mag and oiler i dont think the oiler will be a problem but alot of engines that are unrestored dont have a mag or the proper one on them good luck john
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Old 02-26-2008, 10:31 PM
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Default Re: Small Engines...

Small engines that I have seen would include the Ideal with 10" flywheels, the Galloway Handy Andy and a few others. Stover engines in the K or CT style are relatively small and light for their horsepower, and aren't too expensive. They were built in both H&M and TG models, so if you want a H&M, make sure what you are looking at. HP alone isn't a good indicator of size. My Stover 1 1/2 KE only weighs around 200 lbs, but an IHC model M of 1 1/2 HP weighs over 300 lbs. I have a Hercules and a F-M 1 1/2 that are heavier than the Stover, but lighter than the IHC M.
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A IHC Titan Jr. is a nice small engine, BUT a bit on the high $ side. Another route is to go for a model, again they can be a bit on the high $ side. There are some "buy's" out in engine land if you can wait long enough. Be sure to look for the latch up arm on a Hit & Miss and not a throttle control to the mixer on a throttle governed engine .
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Default Re: Small Engines...

A small engine that I have had a lot of fun with and is relatively low priced and easy to find is the Baker Moniter pump jack engine. they are battery and buzz coil ignition so no magneto problems and they are hit and miss. One of these with a pump attached makes a nice display and no I don't have any for sale now.
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tHAT IS A GREAT iDEA DANIEL BECAUSE I AM RESTORING A PUMP JACK.
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Default Re: Small hit and miss engines...

Alek,
Give us an idea of what you consider small and what you are willing to spend. Other Stakers can give some price ranges, for example; Maytag and other kickstart $75 - 200, 10" flywheel, like Ideal to Galloway, $500 - $2000?, 1.5 Hp 16" flywheel like McDeering, Stover, John Deere $500 - 1200. Models kits $200? built $1000 - up.
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a small cheap one like a maytag as you have said len.
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Default Re: Small hit and miss engines...

Depending on what space you have anything under 1.5hp
my little Nelson bros im workingon has 14" flywheels
its a small one
john deere E stover and other under1.5 wieght is under 400 lbs and with a cart can be made realy small
when I had my one bed room apartment i had john deere E on one of those samll tin shop carts they sell at harbor freight
fit though the door inthe winter and would rool right up the bed of my truck it was realy slick
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Just remember the Maytag twin is throttle governed. The single is hit & miss.
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Default Re: Small hit and miss engines...

an Easy engine is the smallest hit miss I know, even w/ exposed valves. Small like a Maytag but 4 cycle.
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Easy should be easy.
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Default Re: Small hit and miss engines...

I wish Easy Washing Machine engines were easy to find, I have been looking for one for about 4 years or so they are a neat looking engines but an expensive one if you do find them, I can't recall what I last seen one sell for. Standard Cream Separator engines bring some real good money too (Not sure if there H&M though) since they have fly ball governors. One of my most favorite small Hit and miss engine is a 2hp KBB Woodpecker another desirable and expensive small hit and miss engine usually bringing $ 1,500 or so depending on how original it is.
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I Don't Think The Standard Engine Is Hit And Miss.i Believe The Gov. Is To Maintain A Constant Speed.dick In Cold Central Pa.
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Default Re: Small hit and miss engines...

Standards are throttle governed.

Greg in thawing Colorado..except in the high country where it is sub artic till May!
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Old 02-29-2008, 08:34 AM
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Default Re: Small hit and miss engines...

Hi. If this is your first engine, and they are not sitting on every street corner, why not take a look at what is around your area, go to a show or two, then get one when one takes your fancy. If you are new to the hobby find someone who may look at the engine when you find it. My advice is to get one that runs and starts fairly easy or you may get put of early. As has been stated if you get an incomplete engine the cost can run away. If you get a good runner even if you pay a little more than you want, it may be the last you spend on it. You may not even want to paint it. When you get into it more you can get a rougher engine, not so common then start the rebuild stage of the hobby. Have a look around first, there's lots to choose from out there, and most of the collector are helpfull, a few you speak with may have what you want. Good luck mate Graeme
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Old 02-29-2008, 08:48 AM
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Hi again. Just a thought, whether throttle govered or hit miss a nice little open crank horizontal is great. A sweet running faibanks morse is as sweet as any hit miss . Then united and associated can be either. Can get confusing, eh . One day I bet you end up with both. I started with a nice hit miss 2 yrs ago, now I have neither as a favorite. (i have over 120 good running engines to choose from though ) Graeme
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