Waukesha ICK engine

[Mac Leod]

Well, since we have so many new members I thought it would be worth a shot to bring it up again, does any one have any information about a Waukesha engine model ICKxxx. this is an aluminium four cylinder flat head engine. it was my great grandfathers and I am trying to get it rebuilt. the cylinder, pistons valves/ seats and head and manifolds are corroded beyond use. The rest of the engine is in great shape, no water got to the bottom end.

hoping some one will be able to help me.

thanks

Mac Leod

[John Schwiebert]

Well how about a couple more details. What bore is your engine? I would think the first 2 would be the easiest to fix. Put cast sleeves in the block, How bad is the head? Valves can be made and valve seats are no problem? we once worked with a man that could do some amazing things with a TIG welder and aluminum heads and since yours is a flat head to start with there are a few things you do not need to worry about. Oh by the way Victor had to reintroduce the gasket set for the FC engines. Bud: If you read this, how many Victor head gaskets were listed for this group of engines?

[Bud Tierney]

John: a Victor catalog? A VICTOR catalog?? You've got me confused with some CEO; these things sell for like $50-60 on Ebay (altho I let one get away 6-7 months ago for $15 or so 'cuz I was sure big last minute bids would come in!). Oh, well...
The ICK isn't in my poor, tired 1930 McCord; a 64 Fitzgerald and a little 65 Fitzgerald Tractor shows one set for the ICK and ICL.
A 79 Fel-Pro catalog agrees, and had, at that time, full sets listed.
(As to the FC, that Fel-Pro, my latest gasket catalog, is confusing; it shows:
Apparently three former head sets,consolidated into one;
Two full sets, one for FC Ind'l,FCK,FCL,FK, and the other for FC truck;
One manifold set, for FC truck;
One oil pan set, that excepts JI Case (Case section lists FC,FKJ);
One rocker arm cover (??) (There's an OHV version here?).)
Getting back to the ICK, there were apparently a lot produced, being used both by themselves and as a starter engine on Wauks bigger stuff, but, because it's apparently such a neat little engine, also liked by collectors.
There were three as far as I know: ICK, ICK15 and ICL, all 21/2x31/4; a 94 Clevite catalog stocked rod bearings, and showed the same bearings fit the AAPU and CAPU engines.
Ahhh: The mains are ball bearing mains, like a European hi-performance engine, but "no longer available" from Clevite.
Run the archives here, and on the tractor/equipment sites, as there's been a fair number of ICK posts.
I assume from your post no parts are available from the ordinary sources; email if you'd like (pitybud@msn.com), listing who you've tried, and I may be able to suggest others. Good luck!

[Bud Tierney]

John: I just realized I somehow omitted a line re' the FC gaskets in the Fel-Pro, as follows:
The line about the Fel-Pro re' the FC being confusing should've ended with "confusing".
Immediately following should've been the line:
"It keys FC, FC2, FCK, FCL, FK, FKJ, FKL and FWJ to one segment, and in that segment" (the "it shows" was meant to be at the end of this omitted line).
Hope that makes more sense.

[rentsch]

Mac:
You may be interested in this site which deals with the ICK Engine used for marine use- http://sites.google.com/site/arnoltmarineengine/

The ICK was orignally an engine for Refrigerated Trucks and went into production in 1936, it was produced until the late 70's as far as I know and about 80,000 units were made. The most famous application was for APU's on for the Air Corps in WWII both on the ground and in the B-17 and B-24 Bombers, also some B-29's had this type. The airborne units had Aluminum Heads, Crankcases and Bell Housings which your engine does have.

I have one of these in a sailboat and overhauled it 10 years ago. It is a great design with rotating Race Ball Bearing Mains and a very unique lube system for the Crankshaft. If you have any questions additional, please let me know.

Al R

[Ron T.]

All, I am currently restoring an ICK that powers the generator for the PT boat being restored in Portland, Or. The cylinder head freeze cracks are repairable but I was able to locate a NOS head for less than repair costs. There appears to little ware on other parts so I feel lucky. The unit we have has an aluminum pan, support legs, bell housing, the crankcase and cylinders are cast. I have parts lists, and some possible part suppliers.
Ron

[Ron T.]

Mac,
I heard that the Air Musuem in McMinville Or. was looking for an all aluminum ICK. Guess they were used as generator power units in aircraft and could they use one for the Spruce Goose. This may just be hear say, but perhaps you could contact them. Maybe they have parts or are in need of parts.
Ron

[kamsinc]

Originally Posted by Mac Leod

does any one have any information about a Waukesha engine model ICKxxx.... the cylinder, pistons valves/ seats and head and manifolds are corroded beyond use. The rest of the engine is in great shape, no water got to the bottom end.

Mac Leod

How are the camshaft and lifters? We do a lot of Waukesha's bigger stuff and I'm sure we could do these if they need them.

Kams, Inc. - Industrial Camshaft Repair

-Clay in Oklahoma City

[rleonard]

I have a Waukeshaw ICK that needs a new home. Rebuilt years ago by me, test run and stored ever since. Any reasonable offers accepted. Needs a fuel pump repair if not gravity fed. Non origional flywheel and starter.

Bob

[rleonard]

My ICK is a cast iron engine. NOT aluminum.

Bob

[KidDynamo]

"The most famous application was for APU's on for the Air Corps in WWII both on the ground and in the B-17 and B-24 Bombers, also some B-29's had this type."

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Nowhere have I ever seen these as in use in WWII bombers, but there is a lot more I want to learn. I am aware of APU's that were sometimes used onboard but none I've seen were ICK powered.

I don't know much about ground power APU's of WWII vintage. If someone can provide any info showing ICK engines used in bombers or as ground power, I'd sure like to see it.


I have a basket case ICK marine engine marinized by "Whacky Arnolt" and labeled the Arnolt SeaMite. Uses a different head than the standard ICK engine, as the plugs come in from the side.

I also have a B-29 APU built by Andover. I will eventually own a B-17/B-24 APU which is a Homelite built unit.

I have a standard ICK cast iron head, if anyone needs one.

[John Hruska]

I seek:
Intake and exhaust manifolds/carb for an ICK 15.
Thanks,
John

[tinker19]

hello everybody!! after months of engine research and parts hunting ive run across this website more than i care to mention so ive decided to join. I have a ICK powerplant form WWII. I bought it running and am currently rebuilding it entirely. For parts and more info that you can shake a stick at I full heartedly recommend Jobbers Warehouse in philly, PA. 215-236-8500 ask for Mark trust me they're amazing!! NOS and everything