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Twin City 27-44 Restoration Started


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Old 10-21-2008, 12:32 PM
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Default Twin City 27-44 Restoration Started


Last year I sold some of my tractors to gather extra cash to purchase this 1928 TC # 250417.
It was a road builder in north-central Minnesota originally and went through three other owners and 40 years sitting without being restored.
I started tearing into it this fall, thought you may like to see the latest mess I have gotten myself into
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That should keep you busy this winter. It will be a very nice tractor. What all does it need, was the engine stuck? Keep the pictures coming.
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Old 10-21-2008, 02:52 PM
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Looks good Tony. Keep us updated.
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Hi,

I restored a 27-44 myself from the bottom, so I can pretty much dream the tractor. If you need any help or pictures please let me know and I can probably help you with it.
Mine was stuck, I made new valves and guides for it, pitty I had to make twice as much as "normal".
Now it is a strong runner though and a nice tractor to drive.
Ours came from Argentina originally, Bahia Blanca is the place where it use to work.

Gijs
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What all does it need, was the engine stuck?
It needs a complete resto, however, the general condition of the tractor is good. I do not believe it was "pulled to death", because the lugs that I removed to facilitate trailering were very tall and sharp, drawbar is real nice, steering and spindles are good. The tractor was stuck at one time. A previous owner got it loose, did a very poor valve job to get it running and found out the clutch is a useless gob of rust, then it was shoved back in the corner for about fifteen more years.
It will take some doing to get the engine back in shape.....crankshaft must be turned, all bearings will need to be poured, cylinders bored and fitted with new pistons and the entire valvetrain is clapped out. It will need a new clutch, sheetmetal and radiator....... More to come as I get time.
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Hi,

I restored a 27-44 myself from the bottom, so I can pretty much dream the tractor. If you need any help or pictures please let me know and I can probably help you with it.
Mine was stuck, I made new valves and guides for it, pitty I had to make twice as much as "normal".
Now it is a strong runner though and a nice tractor to drive.
Ours came from Argentina originally, Bahia Blanca is the place where it use to work.

Gijs
Yours runs like a bag of nails
and your oil pressure is less than zero
what sort of wheels do you have on it extra small ones?

Road King Wheels the only way to drive a Tea and Cake

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Hey dutchman up in air,
I sea you and Jeorg have meet one another before.......
Also sea Jeorg cents of humor not lost yet from married life

Gentalmen, I am pleased that you care enough to check in on the Stak and offer help and humor!
Dutchman, I would like to add your tractor serial number and location to my registry! Does your Bahia Blanca export have another brass tag under serial tag showing import information
into Argentina? Could you post a picture of your tractor here?
Thanks guys, maybe some day we can tease each other in person
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Tony, have a look here:
http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showth...t=41449&page=6
for a dutch and a german TC.
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Hey dutchman up in air,
I sea you and Jeorg have meet one another before.......
Also sea Jeorg cents of humor not lost yet from married life

Gentalmen, I am pleased that you care enough to check in on the Stak and offer help and humor!
Dutchman, I would like to add your tractor serial number and location to my registry! Does your Bahia Blanca export have another brass tag under serial tag showing import information
into Argentina? Could you post a picture of your tractor here?
Thanks guys, maybe some day we can tease each other in person

Hi Tony

The only thing i lost since i am married is my virginty

I hope we will see us next year because i will go for a three weeks trip to the states which includes the states Iowa,Minnesota, North Dakota and some more.

Let you know early enough.
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Hi Tony,

My serial number is 250261 or 200261 I am not sure again.
The first 3 numbers are always the same though. But it was nr 261 to roll of the bands.
It has a nice brass tag on the other side of the tractor showing the import information indeed. I will try to take a picture this weekend when I am back with my parents again. I still have to study for a few days before it is weekend

How do I upload pictures anyway, they really have to be small ones right?

PS: oh and George, better a small one and running 100% then a big one and running on half steam

Gijs
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I hope we will see us next year because i will go for a three weeks trip to the states which includes the states Iowa,Minnesota, North Dakota and some more.

Let you know early enough.
I will save back some special beer for us and plan a good dinner with a couple of tours of local tractor collections
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Hi Tony,

My serial number is 250261.
It has a nice brass tag on the other side of the tractor showing the import information indeed.
How do I upload pictures anyway, they really have to be small ones right?
Gijs
Dutchman, your 27-44 is a 26 or 27 and I love the way it looks! Twin City tractors that went to Argentina were imported by Juan & Jose Drysdale of Buenes Aires, Bahia Blanca, and Rosario and they put their tags on them.
To upload pictures you need to export or resize them to a smaller percentage, I use a program called Picasa to do this. Enlist the help of a computer friend......good luck, It is wonderful to meet you and I have your tractor in my registry now
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The site software automatically resizes images.......at least it's supposed to....... ......I still prefer to resize them myself.
Harry has uploaded images in the megabytes with success.
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Hi Tony

The only thing i lost since i am married is my virginty

I hope we will see us next year because i will go for a three weeks trip to the states which includes the states Iowa,Minnesota, North Dakota and some more.

Let you know early enough.
Not on your wedding night George! I seem to recollect that you told me that you left the reception at 7.30 am the following morning. I think that Gijs may have had more luck on the night in question, but that's only hearsay from Carina's blog!

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Stakkers,
I have discovered that my clutch shaft, or input shaft is bad.
This is the shaft that the clutch hangs on and enters the front of tranmission housing with the first small bevelled drive gear on it.
Pieces have flaked right out of the gear teeth......looks like it may not have been hardened correctly
I need any leads I can get on parted out 20-35's, or 27-44's to find this part! It is listed in the parts book as AT-81A.....is there an NOS one laying anywhere?

CAN ANY OF YOU HELP WITH THIS PROBLEM?

507-448-3749 rustywheel@deskmedia.com

THANKS GUYS & GALS!
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Hi Tony
It takes a person with a lot of patience to overcome the obstacles when restoring a project like this. But the end result is something to be real proud of.
Good Luck Tony, I know you will Git er Done!!
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Here are some pictures of the problem I have encountered.
First one shows clutch shaft and bearing retainer coming out of transmission housing. Second picture of separate parts shows chunk knocked out of center circle of cast bearing plate #AT-78. Third photo shows a badly chipped input/pinion gear that is made right on the end of shaft ( gear not removeable).
Shaft # is AT-81A.

I have been calling all over US for several days and have actually located two junked out rear ends with missing input assemblies
A bit frustrating yes, however, I have enjoyed visiting with the collector public and I have many more calls to make.
If any of the stakkers have ideas or leads, I would appreciate them!

Fourth photo shows the big, tall, wide and nasty spade lugs that were on this machine. I do not have enough to fill up my 28 inch wide "road king" wheels and would prefer a more conservative lug, perhaps a solid, single bolt spade or pyramid type lug used on many early gas tractors.
I have 68 of these large spades and would like to trade/sell in order to obtain the 128 lugs that I need
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Not on your wedding night George! I seem to recollect that you told me that you left the reception at 7.30 am the following mornin. I think that Gijs may have had more luck on the night in questio, but that's only hearsay from Carina's blog!

Tricky Dickie
Richard, yes I left together with George very early in the morning and he left me all alone with Carina in the cold, so I we only had to keep each other warm I guess..., but lucky I was indeed.

Gijs
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Here are some pictures of the problem I have encountered.
First one shows clutch shaft and bearing retainer coming out of transmission housing. Second picture of separate parts shows chunk knocked out of center circle of cast bearing plate #AT-78. Third photo shows a badly chipped input/pinion gear that is made right on the end of shaft ( gear not removeable).
Shaft # is AT-81A.

I have been calling all over US for several days and have actually located two junked out rear ends with missing input assemblies
A bit frustrating yes, however, I have enjoyed visiting with the collector public and I have many more calls to make.
If any of the stakkers have ideas or leads, I would appreciate them!

Fourth photo shows the big, tall, wide and nasty spade lugs that were on this machine. I do not have enough to fill up my 28 inch wide "road king" wheels and would prefer a more conservative lug, perhaps a solid, single bolt spade or pyramid type lug used on many early gas tractors.
I have 68 of these large spades and would like to trade/sell in order to obtain the 128 lugs that I need
Hi Tony,

I see you have other lugs than mine. It has cast iron lugs. In the manual it says that these were for loose top soil.
And yes a 27-44 is quite rare so you won't find parts on every corner on the street like parts for a JD B or so. But that is the nicest part of restoring a tractor.
Keep the pictures coming!

Gijs

PS: sorry forgot to take a pic of the dealership plate, will do it this weekend.
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Geeze-la-wheeze, that's one ungly looking pinion! Just your luck to find two rear ends with the piece you need missing!

If worse came to worse, I would find a reputable machine/weld shop that deals with heavy equipment repairs. A shop with the capability of cutting gears. I bet it would pricey but it is an option.
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