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Old 01-12-2009, 06:02 AM
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hello from Belgium
Many years ago i did find this Crosley engine in my favourite scrapyard , it's sleeping since then and thanks to the discovery of Smokstak web site , i would like to know now, on which machine it was installed,when ?, the design is wonderfull , 1 OHC , 5 bearings crank , light , small capacity
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Default Re: crosley 4 cyl 1OHC

It's an engine for the Crosley line of cars and pickups. Try this link for the Crosley Automobile Club. Lots of info. there.

http://crosleyautoclub.com/

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Old 01-12-2009, 12:45 PM
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Default Re: Crosley 4 cyl 1OHC

In addition it was installed in a lot of ca 1960 race cars using a Fiat transmission. I think they may have been H Modified class in sports car racing. Lots used the Devin body and looked like tiny Ferraris.
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Default Re: Crosley 4 cyl 1OHC

Roland:

Yours is one of the later 4-banger Crosley engines. The blocks of the first 4-bangers were made of steel weldments. They had problems with this design and went to cast iron.

BTW, the first Crosley cars had a 2-cylinder air cooled engine.

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I thought I'd run across a reference somewhere that Crosley engines had been adapted for marine use, but wasn't sure until noticed the post, made yesterday, in the Antique Marine Engine forum here re' modified Crosleys.
I did see a reference that the Crosley engines were built by Waukesha, but I don't know if that referred to the pre-war 2cyl or the later 4cyl, or both.
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They later had a vertical version of this same engine...it was the Powerhead for outboard motors (Westbend or early Chryslers -- I think.)

I used to have one of each type....they are neat little engines, about 50 horse if I remember right....I always thought it would be cool in a shaft drive motorcycle, kinda like the Indian inline 4.
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Crosley - cool little cars - but crude even for the time. However, I like little cars! Had several Nash Metropolitans.

Crosleys were very popular as antique cars a while back and too expensive for me to own one. I hear prices have gone down.....I'd still love one.

Small cars are not common in the USA and rarely very popular.
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Default Re: Crosley 4 cyl 1OHC

I have one of the marine versions. Not one of the outboard powerhead types, a regular cast iron block that was marinized to run an inboard drive on a small racing hydroplane. They apparently were the consistant winner until motorcycle engines started being used.
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It was the Std Cat American Cars 1805-1942 that said the original 2cyls were built by Wauk; the book mentions the postwar 4cyl, but doesn't say who built them, and I don't have the later book.
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Here is some more data on the Crossley/Fageol engine - http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39478

I had a Fageol for a while and sold it. It came from a military genset. It was configurated for cold operation. The electrical system was set up for 24 vdc and ignition was by magneto.
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Early Crosley Convertible.

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Later hard top.
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Default Re: Crosley 4 cyl 1OHC

They were also used in some military generator sets, circa WWII. This would be a likely place to find this block in Europe, either as part of a genset or a spare part.

Try posting something on the generator board. Somebody on there probably has one of the sets I'm referring to. I don't know what they were called, but someone will know.
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Yes, also made a 7 passenger amphibious vehicle, a tracked vehicle called a tug,The Pup (CT3), the Mule, motorcycles (2 cylinder)and Generators - the "generators were a major contract for Crosley. They were made in many different forms for all branches of the military. 2.5KW and 5KW were the most common. They came on skids and wheel versions. Cold weather versions had oil pan gas fired heaters. We have stories of these being used on PT boats and Air Planes as well as the more normal ground uses."

They used the Tin Block engine that would later power the post war Crosley. Not a cast iron.

http://crosleyautoclub.com/Mighty_Tin.html
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thank you very much everybody for your excellent help
i have found the type and everything i did want to know , thank you
Bon courage
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They later had a vertical version of this same engine...it was the Powerhead for outboard motors (Westbend or early Chryslers -- I think.)

I used to have one of each type....they are neat little engines, about 50 horse if I remember right....I always thought it would be cool in a shaft drive motorcycle, kinda like the Indian inline 4.
Westbend outboards became Chrysler outboards - but neither had anything to do with the Crosleys.

Crosley engine in an outboard was a Bearcat, Homelite, and Fisher Pierce (I forget in what order). 55 HP. I have several.
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Default Re: Crosley 4 cyl 1OHC

I have one of these in a 90 volt DC Air Force generator.
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I have one of these in a 90 volt DC Air Force generator.
Is it the"TIN" or is it cast iron?
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Cast iron. I don't think many of the tin blocks are still around because they rusted real quick and leaked. I heard they recalled many of them and replaced them with cast iron.
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Cast iron. I don't think many of the tin blocks are still around because they rusted real quick and leaked. I heard they recalled many of them and replaced them with cast iron.
Yea, the "Mighty Tin" was initially trouble and few are left, buut prized by the guys that have them in their cars.

The cast iron engine was introduced in 1949.

All this talk of Crosley has me thinking again. SIGH!
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