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Middletown Machine Co. "Woodpecker" Owners


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Old 02-28-2009, 04:42 PM
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Default Middletown Machine Co. "Woodpecker" Owners

Attention Middletown Machine Company or Woodpecker Engine Owners,I talked with some Woodpecker owners also Lawrence Fuller today and We would like to get a Newer List of engine owners,,Lawrence did a list 20 Years ago before the internet for the most part,,and he gathered around 80 engine serial numbers at that time,he was friends with the Late John "Woodpecker" Smith ,there research has helped me alot ,Maybe we can get some kind of Booklet together like my Waterloo engine Friends did,,were still not sure if the little 1 1/2 Hp engine was ever made at Middletown Ohio,but is has Woodpecker on it,,So it counts,,I know there is a few sideshaft engines out there as well,,,I can start with my engines 2 Hp #121 type K,4 Hp 7545 type K ,6 Hp 20680 type KS,7 Hp type I, 15709, 8 Hp type KS 16359,also need to include the Miami Name and types of engine you have A,E,I,J,K,KS,KBB ect !,I would like to keep up with the Hopper cooled and tank cooled engines as well,If you dont want to list your serial number or info on here that's fine you can just send me a private e-mail,,,Thank you,,Jim Martin

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Old 02-28-2009, 05:05 PM
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Jim, I have a Miama 4 Hp. Type K.
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Old 02-28-2009, 07:48 PM
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Default Re: Middletown Machine Co. "Woodpecker" Owners

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Add my numbers to the list My 8hp tank cooled Ser # is 15890 I also have a 2hp hopper cooled Ser # 157. And a nameplate Ser # 16258 8hp. I hope more people add there numbers to the list then we will know how many engines have survived.
This is a great post Thanks Jim
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Old 02-28-2009, 08:19 PM
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Thanks Guys,,,I know theres at least 70+ more out there!,,,,,,,,,,,,Jim
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Old 02-28-2009, 08:47 PM
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I have a Borden and Selleck tank cooled engine that seems to have Middletown in its pedigree. Do any of you fellows know anything about this engine? Thank You Gary Gruel
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Old 02-28-2009, 08:52 PM
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Well I'm not sure Gary,,Maybe we can compare it to our tank cooled engines,can you send me a picture?,,The name doesn't ring a bell,but that doesnt mean much,,Maybe Todd can help here?,,Thanks,,Jim
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Old 02-28-2009, 11:41 PM
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Default Re: Middletown Machine Co. "Woodpecker" Owners

Add my 2 H.P. hopper cooled Woodpecker, Serial number 4555. I believe it is a type J, but not sure; no tag. Hit & Miss, battery & coil, sparkplug ignition.
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Default Re: Middletown Machine Co. "Woodpecker" Owners

[QUOTE=Gary Gruel;385282]I have a Borden and Selleck tank cooled engine that seems to have Middletown in its pedigree.

Gary, There use to be an engine with that name up here in Wis. about 40 years ago and it sold. The Late Andy Kruse bought it. Is there anyway you can post a picture of it. I was curious to see what one looks like.
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I have one on my Coldwell "H". There is no tag. 2HP?
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do the Coldwell Woodpeckers have a serial # stamped anywhere? Thanks, Tim
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I will atteempt to post a picture of the Borden and Selleck engine.
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Default Re: Middletown Machine Co. "Woodpecker" Owners

Great Idea for a thread Jim!! As you know I currently have 2 Woodpeckers 1 is 1903 or 1904 3 1/2 Hp Tank Cooled Engine that has a Bronze Connecting Rod and 5 spoke flywheels. The 2nd is a 2hp Hp Model KBB Woodpecker, this is the stationary version of the one used on the lawn mower. I know where a third "bird" is, this is hopefully a "future Purchase". I don't have the serial numbers handy at this time I will get them to you though. Tim to answer your question, some engine had tags that were attached to the side of the hopper, most small Woodpeckers had no tags. The serial number on my 2 hp engine is stamped in the governor side of the crank at the end; this is the only serial number I can find.

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Hey jim! I have what is supposed to be a 1 1/2 hp #123, 4 hp #7389, 6 hp no # that i have found yet,6 hp #20417, and a 15 hp #25142.
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Default Re: Middletown Machine Co. "Woodpecker" Owners

I have 2 one is a small one like1 1/2 Hp no tag and don't know where a serial number would be, and I think a 8 Hp number 6029 I could be mistaken on hp??
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Hi Jim,
I have a hopper cooled Woodpecker # 7109. No style or hp. given on the tag, but 400 is also stamped on the right side of the tag, I'm guessing rpm.
It's got 5 spoke 24"X2.75" flywheels, mixer mounted on a pipe fitting on front of the head & exhaust valve on the gov, side of the head.
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Thanks Dwight..It sounds like a 4 Hp K engine to me,,,I will add it,,,,,,Jim Martin
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Thanks James..your engine may be a 6 Hp engine,,How big are the flywheels,,or even the Speed on the tag?,,Its kinda between a K and a I,,,its the second one I've seen like this,,Todd on this thread has a friend John Wanat thats advertizes on here can make you a crank guard and Fuel tank maybe,,if you dont have them,,even the measurements to build you a cradel for the fuel tank,,Just a suggestion?,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Jim
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Jim: Here is a photo of mine .
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I have a 12 hp woodpecker ser#35090 that I nead some help with. Where do I look?
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I have one of the small hopper cooled ones, the ones used on lawn mowers. Buzz coil fired, runs great, but no serial #.

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