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Found this at a fair ground in Montenegro, Never heard of a Torpedo engine before. Its a V6 non...

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Found this at a fair ground in Montenegro, Never heard of a Torpedo engine before. Its a V6 non turbo diesel with an odd manifold layout. Not sure if its got a marine style heat exchanger on or not.
Hope these work, if not, have a look at TORPEDO ENGINE in antique marine for a couple of pics.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/43179208@N00/3556873541/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/43179208@N00/3557682748/

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Here ya go,

http://www.flickr.com/photos/43179208@N00/3556873541/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/43179208@N00/3557682748/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/43179208@N00/3556870079/

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Lets try this one

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Heyup JK!
Got here ya go from you but..........
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Once again technology is wonderful if you know what your about!
Clearly, i dont. I hang ny head in shame.
Many thanks for your help gents, hope i can get an answer to this one!
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Tucker built an engine named the torpedo, but i dont think it was a diesel

Engine looks similar to an older Caterpillar engine.
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Could be eastern bloc or anything being here in Montenegro (ex yugoslavia - serbia & pretty well any other place ending in ia)!
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Merv, I can shed a little light with the help of my "Diesel and Gas Turbine Catalog" volume 32 of 1967.They have listed the Torpedo engine line and will share some data: "Torpedo factory was founded in 1853 under the name Ljevaonica metala" (metal foundry)".Producing shipbuilding parts and steam engines--in 1864 became the first in the world to produce the newly invented weapon-torpedos.After WW2became the first in Yugoslavia to produce diesel engines.Pictured is a 2 flywheel horizontal diesel of 7-11 hp @1000-1500 rpm as well as multi cyl engines on generators, pumps,trucks, and in marine trim.
One style of v engines is shown in the stationary chart roots blown, 112 MM bore X140 MM stroke, in 6 cyl @ 174 HP, 8 cyl 232 HP, and 12 cyl @345 HP.Also a line of vertical inline of this same B&S in 1,2,3,4 and6 cyl.I think the engine you saw looks identical with the line if V engines.My 1985 catalog does not list Torpedo engines but it is not unusual to see manufacturers not list their products every year.
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Thats terrific! Any chance you could scan & PM the sheets to me please? Wonder if it is a direct copy of the CAT V6 of the same era?
Found alsorts of odd bits about Vtype engines, including a Junkers KM8 torpedo engine. Clever piece of kit. Got it on a PDF & not figured out how to put that on here. Have had a go though!. If you fancy having a look at it let me know & will zap it over to you.
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Merv, I will be glad to make you a copy of the info I have.Contact me e mail and share your address.Maybe you can post a readable scan when I get you good copies.My efforts in the past have been disappointing.As to the comparison to cat; As far as I know, Cat has never offered a V 6 but V8 and v 12 forms go a way back.My cross section of the Torpedo V engine bears no resemblence to any Cat engine of that era (post WW2).It is a pushrod engine w/precombustion chambers between spray nozzle and main comb chamber like Cat and many others.Blower (when used) and inj pump and camshaft in the "V".Automotive type, flat top pistons, wet liners, and access ports in the lower crankcase.Looks like a common head covered each bank but probably the v 12 (not pictured) used 4 3-cyl heads.Looks like the head design of inlet and ex on the same side (not crossflow) would allow it's use on either bank and also on inline but requires the unusual inlet plumbing.I wish you could have brought this thing home with you.
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All, Darned if I didn't miss it on the cyl head arrangement.A closer look shows individual heads on each cyl-I was focused on the cross sectional view where this detail didn't show and missed the obvious shown in your good pictures.No problem for me-I make mistakes all the time.
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Wish i could have got it back home but i think i would have ended up with divorce proceedings! Apparently me & my brother in law already have to much junk. Is that possible?
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So Volvo were involved!
Torpedo tractors-Deutz by Croatia
Once giant factory seated in Rijeka got its name, Torpedo, due to the fact that in its production hall the first torpedo ever was made. This was in 1866. Even today there is still the original launch platform (check the picture). During the 50' Torpedo starts to produce agricultural machinery. Marine engines of astonishing quality named ARAN by Aleksandar Ranković, top figure of secret service, the Vice president of Yugoslavia and Tito's godfather, belong to that time. Even legendary Volvo Penta approved licence to Torpedo for production of their engines. But Torpedo is most known by the production of tractors under the licence of Deutz. Company produced tractors 33-70 kW and engines 6,5-95 kW. Unfortunately, the company was not able to survive transition period and was shut down in 1994. Today its halls are used for concerts and performances.
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Hi Merve; it is really strange nobody in Montenegro could not tell you anything about it!? Just pick any old fisherman with a small boat anywhere on Adriatic and I could bet at least 30% of them still has Torpedo engine in it. Or, he would be able to tell you stories about it.
They have been making 1, 2, 3 and ? cylinder engines; those with one cylinder were most popular for small hobby fishing boats. These engines were extremely durable and simple. Bigger models were used in olive mills and for similar tasks. The originals from before 2nd world war were started using burning/glowing piece of some cord (like those Bedouin cigarette lighters, if you know what I mean). You can recognise the sound of that engine very easiyl - they were all low rpm engines and they sound (especially 1 cyl.) like thos Chinese machines that are nowadays used in Southeast Asia for watering rice fileds. (When they start them they work for months pumping water without a single breakdown...!)
If you go to the web pages where boats are being offered (second hand market) in Croatia, there will be always some quite new boats with Torpedo engine - there is really nothing very misterious about them here in the country. I know at least one 7 m boat with literally new 2 cylinder Torpedo engine in it. I have access to its handbook also (18KW engine).
However, there is very little on the web about that factory because it stopped production before the web really got very important (end of '80).
By the way, that factory patended the first torpedo in the world and was producing them until 1966.

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