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Help - Allis Chalmers paint!


i am restoring a 1939 allis chalmers b and need to know what to do for paint.I have gone to many...

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Old 11-11-2009, 08:48 PM
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i am restoring a 1939 allis chalmers b and need to know what to do for paint.I have gone to many auto body paint supplyers and i can not afford there prices.can some one tell me if the kubota valspar paint is close to the origanal paint color? i can not find any company that sells the OLD allis chalmers orange color.valspar has a restoration allis chalmers orange but is not the right shade.any help would be GREAT!
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You can go right to the Allis Chalmers {Agco} dealer & get the paint you need.I bought a gallon from my local dealer,about 2 years ago & it was about $40 a gallon.They also had it in spray cans if that was what you want. The Kubota color,in my opinion,is not even close. The color you need is called Persian Orange #1. There is also a Persian Orange #2,but that is a lot brighter & was used on the later tractors & equipment such as the D17 etc.
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Try TSC , Tractor Supply , they have tractor colors of paint .
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Does ANYBODY really know the original Persian Orange? my neighbor restored a C, & they repainted it so many times trying to get the right color you can't even get a wrench on the bolts now...
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Default Re: Help - Allis Chalmers paint!

People can afford paint nowadays? I have to buy RED for the Massey if I get it running..... Now THAT'S expensive paint.

I know there was a cutoff date for the transition to #2, but what was it? I always hear people debate it.
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The paint I got from the local Allis {Agco} dealer was the right color. I have gotten some at TSC before & it wasn't right for the Persian#1,it was to bright.
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was the paint that you got from the agco dealer from the Herschal adams company?
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Default Re: Help - Allis Chalmers paint!

I just redone a wd45 an it was persian #1,i got my paint at rural king, when it was wet it looked bright but as it dryed it went to the persian orange #1, they changed over in 1960 some early d17 was #1 some was #2, but the b tracter was built from 1937 to 1957.PS i was told u can get the same paint at napa.
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from C.H Wendel's book "THE ALLIS-CHALMERS STORY"
A-C Green= Martin Senour 90T-11511
A-C Red = Martin Senour 99N-4359
A-C Orange (thru 1960) Martin Senour 90T-3732
A-c Orange (1691 and later) American Parts 1204-6

I believe NAPA carries Martin Senour paints. Any good Autobody shop should be able to mix it up if you give them the numbers.
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To tell you the truth,I don't know.I will have to see if I still have the can it came in & see if it say's any thing on it.
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If ANYONE has a 1691 A-C please post pictures, ha-ha....(typo on my part if ya haven't figured that one out)
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Default Re: Help - Allis Chalmers paint!

I am about to have the exact same problem, I am restoring my 1939 WC (my grandpas first tractor) and I was recently at an antique equipment show, they had 39s painted the bright orange, my paint is faded but I dont believe it was EVER that bright as the Persian orange 2, the majority of the restorations there were the bright orange. Before I paint I really would like to verify that mine should be the lighter Persian orange 1, I like it much better anyway.
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A 1939 is MOST DEFINITELY persion #1!!!! Absolutely no doubt about it.
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if you buy cheap paint and have to paint it again next year, is that going to be cheaper than doing it right the first time? time = money

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Default Re: Help - Allis Chalmers paint!

Please also keep in mind that if using primer paint, that color will affect the final shade of the paint as well.

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