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Hay Loaders for loose Hay


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Old 01-22-2010, 03:21 AM
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Default Hay Loaders for loose Hay

Was just thinking, does anyone still use or collect the old hayloaders for loose hay? The type pulled behind the wagon -lifting the hay up and over the back of the wagon.
In the 1950's, it was my job while helping my grandfather make hay, to spread the loose hay around on the wagon over the slings. I still have a set of hay slings hanging in the barn.
Does there seem to be any interest in the hay loaders anywhere?
I have collected a few of these: two Minneapolis Molines, one John Deere, one Minnesota, and one New Idea.

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Old 01-22-2010, 12:11 PM
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I have one that I picked up from the neighbor he was going to junk it I can remember when the guy that lived there before used it a a few years its a new Idea that is in good shape the carriers are in rough shape but a buddy of mine cut me some new ones then 2 weeks later he was at his father in laws old farm and found a full set in the machine shed still with orange paint on them he sold them to me for 20.00 what a deal I want to fix it up and use it for a show demo most people do not have a clue how they work or what they are they use to set all over up here by me but when iron got high a few years ago lots got cut up I picked up a few sets of the swivel wheels from them make nice cart wheels I don't think a lot of people know they go behind the wagon.
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Old 01-22-2010, 03:07 PM
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Default Re: Hay Loaders for loose Hay

I could not agree with you more. Often times these just end up being another peice of farm junk in the fence row or out by the road in a flower bed. Not many folks know what they are or how they worked. I think thats it is cool to see plowing coming back at shows, but what about demos of other equipement? This would make a great demo. Here is where I must profess my lack of understanding of how these really work. Anyone want to explain the details?
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Old 01-22-2010, 05:11 PM
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sure Thing they are not too complicated as I stated they hook behind a wagon so the shoot is over the wagon there is a pickup reel with teeth that you can adjust up and down as you go over the top of the hay windrow it picks it up off the ground and feeds it to the carriers the long wood rails these have rake teeth on them and work back and forth they are offset from each other and carry the hay up the shoot then it drops on the wagon there are hooks punched into the bottom of the shoot deck to keep the hay from sliding back down the whole thing is driven off the wheels that have a gear box in the center of them thats why the big wheels don't make good cart wheels I was told by an old timer ( have to watch that I am getting close) that the reason for it being behind the wagon was so you did not have to unhook the horses all the time to take the load to the barn you just drop the pin from the loader and go when you got to the barn you pulled into the mow and put the slings on from the hay carrier and unloaded but thats a whole nother story Tony K
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Old 01-23-2010, 03:59 AM
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Default Re: Hay Loaders for loose Hay

Thanks that was a great explanation. I knew that they went behind the wagon, just never knew why. Now I know. I have seen several of them from afar, just never up close and or in use. Did they come in different sizes? Like widths and heights. Or was it one size fit all? Any idea if there was one that was considered the best?
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Old 01-23-2010, 10:14 AM
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they came in different widths I believe don't know witch one was best. know that new Idea was pretty popular around here I think all major implement company's built one the early ones were mostly wood so the survival rate for those is not good I know where there is a really nice one that came out of a shed but now its outside as a lawn ornament will not last long Tony K
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I know where a Barn was torn down several years ago. One was pulled outside and is just sitting there. Now the farm is up for sale. Would like to try to rescue it. It looks to be mostly metal.
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I've towed several 5 or 6 miles to bring them home behind a car. But they aren't that hard to load on a flat bed trailer to haul. Just winch them on and then tip them down -forward. I've hauled 2 at one time that way with a neighbor few years ago.
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My two kids about 12 & 8 yrs old would stak hay under the loader, Bill kept falling off the load and to this day 30 yrs later my daughter still talks about how she hated that job especially, when a snake came up with the hay. Those where the good old days????
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Default Re: Hay Loaders for loose Hay

The Amish farmers around here still use them.
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Default Re: Hay Loaders for loose Hay

I have been looking for a New Idea or IHC hay loader to play with. Does anyone have one for sale close to central Missouri?
Might have something to trade if interested.
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Old 01-25-2010, 12:41 AM
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I have one but you're a little far.
New Idea, John deere, Minnesota, 2 Minneapolis Moline.
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Our local club still uses a hayloader at our local demonstrations.
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That's really neat I haven't seen a hayloader on rubber is it original and what kind is it Tony K
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The hayloader on rubber is a Cockshutt 3A. I don''t know if the rubber tires were original. Farmers changed things to suit themselves quite a bit. In 1955 Massey-Harris was still selling hayloaders on steel wheels.
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Default Re: Hay Loaders for loose Hay

Wayne in your second thumbnail ,the # 7 as can be seen is a rope loader. We used one on our farm in the 40's and early 50's. The top section could be cranked higher as the wagon got loaded. Another thing about the two different styles were; The ones with the solid bottom were prone to blow over unless they were tilted front so the wind would not catch them. The rope ones,the air just blew through them.Brings back old memories.HARD WORK.
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I have in my collection five or six hayloaders of different styles and makes. The first photo below shows a McCormick- Deering hayloader that I restored about 30 years ago. These were exceptionally well-built machines and were unique in that the number of rake-carriers was nine as opposed to the six that most others used. It made for a smoother operating and more efficient machine.
The second photo shows my scratch-built working model of the same hayloader in 1/16 scale.
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This is one i picked up its one of the earler Ih loaders. It still has alot of original paint. And the best part it still works.
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So anyone else uses one of these at a show? What seems to work our best, in terms of drawing a crowd?
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Default Re: Hay Loaders for loose Hay

We have a Cockshut at our show. They didn't get it done in time for me to get the rigging right to hitch the horses to it last fall...but this year looks like it's going to be a "go".
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