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Pyle National Turbine Generator


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Old 09-27-2010, 10:16 AM
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Photo Pyle National Turbine Generator

Here are some pictures of a small Pyle National steam turbine generator I aquired after some horse trading the other day. From my limited research it seems that these were used on locomotives for lighting. I think it would be neat on a traction engine also.
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Jon,

I believe the 32 CC Reeves at the NTA show has this style of steam turbine generator on it powering its front headlamp. Beth, am I right on this?

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I have had two like yours and have never seen one missing the brush tension springs. This is unfortunate since these are quite a curiosity at steam shows when running. They are quite robust as a rule. You could try rolling your own springs or searching the net for persons associated with the steam tourist railroad community. To test the basic electrical integrigty of the unit, connect a 12VDC source accross the brushes, if good the armarature will rotate in the direction it is supposed to.

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Hi Patrick
Thanks for writing. I am not to worried about the springs, a friend of mine can make them I think. I have a couple springs that fit it, I just need some better looking ones made
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Backshop Enterprises form Wheatridge, Co, has all the parts available for most of the Pyle National dyno's as well as rebuilt ones on the shelf ready to go.

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Default Re: Pyle National Turbine Generator

Yes, our 32 Reeves has one. We have the light bulbs under the canopy and the headlight out front (my brother made from scratch.)

Davide Lorenzone took these nice photos of it under steam/light!





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Default Re: Pyle National Turbine Generator

Thanks for the info Brian, I called the company and I have some springs on the way. Those are some neat pictures Beth, it looks like the turbine uses a lot of steam.

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Default Re: Pyle National Turbine Generator

They're great units mos def. 32V 16amp 550watts. They are steam hogs for sure, we built a muffler for ours to cut down on the high pitched whine, the muffler did not affect performance. We run a 100watt bulb for the headlight & everything else (gauge, glass, undercarriage lights, etc.) are 25watt bulbs.

32V is apparently quite common on sailboats, we order our bulbs from a sailing supply outfit online.

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Jon,

Good question. I've never inquired as to how much steam it uses! I'll have to ask.

Dad had purchased it long before he bought the Reeves and it just seemed to be a good destination for it.

Saunders have one on their 24 Port Huron also.

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Steam consumption varies based on how much you load up the dynamo. When we're running just the 25watt bulbs then switch on the headlight, the dynamo bogs down. I believe it's important to ALWAYS have a load on the output side. Efficiency do not appear to have been a major concern (remember these units usually sat on the top of the locomotive cab or near the cab). Our unit came with KSW's 1920 Case 40HP, I recall our mentor claimed that the consumption of the dynamo was nearly as much as the main engine! I've never run the numbers but I will say that when I've let the pressure climb close to the safety and I wanted to eat up a bunch of steam quickly rather then lifting the pop valve, our Pyle National dynamo was more then happy to help out.
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Default Re: Pyle National Turbine Generator

My 75 Case has one on it. The engine spent most of its time in a sawmill and I believe it was used for lighting in the mill.
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Default Re: Pyle National Turbine Generator

We also have one on the Roadlocomotive. We use it many evenings when out on the road after dark. We have also wired for trailer lights such as when we pull the calliope.
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