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John Deere B head Gasket


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Old 01-25-2011, 04:30 PM
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Im going to pull the head back off my B John Deere after about 10 minutes of running. Something (hopefully the head gasket) is leaking and filling the cylinders up. Does anyone know where I can get JUST the head gasket for this tractor? The problem is that the serial number is 89613. This is under 96000 and the application is only for 2 years. Any leads would be greatly appreciated.

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Old 01-25-2011, 04:53 PM
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I know Deere has the head gasket seperate(B1307R subs to R521491). Sometimes a head set from elsewhere is cheaper, but a phone call to price JD would be easy.
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Default Re: John Deere B head Gasket

NAPA does not have that gasket. However there is a place in Washington that I use for obsolete gaskets. They have (or had if someone has bought it) a Victor number 1. It is called Olson's Gaskets. Here is the contact information:

Olson's Gaskets
3059 Opdal Rd E
Port Orchard, WA 98366, USA
Phone: (360) 871-1207
Fax: (360) 871-0991
Email: info@olsonsgaskets.com
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bfmco7; Did you remember to install the lead washers? They are quite often the reason for leaks.

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Thanks for the information folks.

I tries deere and they can get it for 90 dollars

Yes I installed the lead washes and sealed the studs in the block.
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Default Re: John Deere B head Gasket

Did you check to see if your push rod tubes leak? Iwould take a look at them.
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Old 01-25-2011, 10:39 PM
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Leaky push rod tubes cause the coolant to leak into the crankcase, not the cylinders. You could be looking at a gasket leak, cracked block, cracked head, or a machined gasket surface on the block or head that needs re-machining.

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Default Re: John Deere B head Gasket

Does the block have dowel pins to locate the head? Can't remember if a B does, I know 60 & 620 do, if the head is surfaced, the hole in the head might not be deep enough for the pin. Don't ask how I know this...
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Yes I checked the push rod tubes before I assembled it, they are fine. And yes, it will cause it to go in the cranks but good thought! I will take all the opinions I can get.

This engine doesn't have pins and the head and block have been pressure checked as well as milled for flat surfaces on both.
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Well the heads off............

I had water in all four puch rod tubes, and the push rod tubes are solid. There was water in both cylinders... The only thing that it can really be is the head gasket right? I heard through the grapevine that dear head gaskets were junk...
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Make sure that the surfaces are bare metal (Must be clean, clean, clean). Check the flatness of the mating surfaces with a steel rule or the like and for cracks (once clean). (Poor mans crack finder, it wont find internal cracks) Cracks can be found sometimes by laying a magnet on the head surface and then sprinkling iron filings on the surface. If there is a crack the iron filings will stand up on the crack. You will need to move the magnet around a bunch and repeat. Sealer. I prefer to use spray sealer on the surfaces before installing the gasket. Torque the head and then loosen it again. Then retorque the head again. See the chart at the link below for the torque specs. You will need a 150 ft lb torque wrench to achieve proper torque on the head nuts (A clicker is better than a bender...).

http://www.antiquetractors.com/Resea...er/torqspc.htm
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Thanks for the advice! Anyone else have any install recommendations? I will take all I can get. If this 90 dollar head gasket gets wasted Im going to be a bit bitter at myself. Also, I want to make sure I install it right so if it does fill the cylinders again I know that it is the machine work.

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Which side would you say goes toward the block (not the head?)
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I don't know if it's right or not but if they aren't marked I always put the rough side to the block. (first picture )

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