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Old 03-31-2011, 02:39 PM
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Don’t know where to post this picture on Smokstak ?.

This picture is made in the begin of the 20’st Century and was to see on an exhibition in Californie and New York, U.S.A. .

Must have been made for an Hart Parr 60-100......
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Old 03-31-2011, 07:39 PM
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Id hate to have that land on me. what ever they used it on must of been one hell of a machine
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Actually found a reference for the world's largest nut and bolt;


The worlds largest bolts ever made were specially forged by the Penrith Engineering Works in Clydesdale Scotland in 1967. The bolts measured 27' 4" long each and had a diameter of 4' 2". Each bolt weighed 12.6 tonnes and a total of 60 of them were made. The bolts were made from the ultra hard and super strong metal IRIDIUM. The bolts were used to connect two oil tankers together as an experiment to increase bulk crude oil transport capacity of shipping company SWISSOIL.
Incredibly each bolt failed one by one when the ships were sailing up the English Channel and the experiment was deemed a failure becuase of torsional stress caused the bolts to fail. The two tankers were wrecked subsequently and no company has ever tried to bolt two oil tankers together again.

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The worlds largest bolts ever made were specially forged by the Penrith Engineering Works in Clydesdale Scotland in 1967. The bolts measured 27' 4" long each and had a diameter of 4' 2". Each bolt weighed 12.6 tonnes and a total of 60 of them were made. The bolts were made from the ultra hard and super strong metal IRIDIUM.
Since iridium costs several hundred dollars per ounce, those must have been very very expensive bolts. It would've taken many years just to refine that much....annual production is only a few tons per year. I'm not surprised they failed, since it's a brittle material.
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Default Re: Old picture - biggest bolt and nut in the world!

The fellow on the right side of the bolt in the original picture looks like Henry Ford, but that bolt ain't goin' to fit no Model 'T'

I'd like to see the wrench to tighten it up!
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I am sure Phil is right about that being Henry Ford. Good eye! I'll bet the bolt was just a prop for the Dardelet Threadlock Corporation. It was probably at some trade show to show how the threads were different from normal threads. See how the one gentleman is pointing at the threads? Dardelet threads are a locking type thread. You can screw and tighten the nut down easily but once tight the threads lock the nut on tight with no lock washers or lock nut.

Here is the technical definition... The Dardelet patented self-locking thread is designed to resist vibrations and remain tight without auxiliary locking devices. The locking surfaces are the tapered root of the bolt thread and the tapered crest of the nut thread. The nut is free to turn until seated tightly against a resisting surface, thus causing it to shift from the free position (indicated by dotted lines) to the locking position. The locking is due to a wedging action between the tapered crest of the nut thread and the tapered root or binding surface of the
bolt thread. This self-locking thread is also applied to set-screws and cap-screws. The holes must, of course, be threaded with Dardelet taps. The abutment sides of the Dardelet thread carry the major part of the tensile load. The nut is unlocked simply by turning it backward with a wrench. The Dardelet thread can either be cut or rolled, using standard equipment provided with tools, taps, dies, or rolls made to suit the Dardelet thread profile. The included thread angle is 29 degrees; depth E = 0.3P; maximum axial movement = 0.28 P. The major internal thread diameter (standard series) equals major external thread diameter plus 0.003 inch except for 1⁄4-inch size which is plus 0.002 inch. The width of both external and internal threads at pitch line equals 0.36 P.
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27 feet long, 4 feet in diameter, and made of IRIDIUM?! And they made 60 of them?! I call BS. Iridium is stupidly expensive and dense. A bolt that big made of iridium would weigh about 240 tons. They say 12.6? I don't think that's a rounding error, haha.
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Where is Uncle Benn Hadd when we need him?

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If that is Henry Ford, I can understand why he would be interested in their fasteners for his 'T'. Actually, Henry was very interested in new technology and metallurgical advances.
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Actually, the biggest NUT on Stak is that guy from Rosholt, WI!
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I went totaly thru my thank button today.

Thanks everybody for the great response.
Dit not expect there was so much intrest in this subject.


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One of the customers I serviced while employed by IBM was National Machinery Company in Tiffin, Ohio. They made punch presses among other things. They assembled and operated each machine before shipping. One press they made was large enough that they could not stand it upright in the factory so they assembled it horizontally. It was built in several sections with a bolt through each corner about 12" dia with nuts on top and bottom to hold the machine together. To tighten the nuts a crane picked up each nut and held it in place for each bolt. A second crane picked up a wrench and screwed the nuts in place. It was shipped on several rail cars. It would have been an interesting process to watch.
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I have my doubts that is Henry Ford in the photo.......
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Must have been made for an Hart Parr 60-100......
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I have my doubts that is Henry Ford in the photo.......
Yup good ol' Henry was probably busy writing dubious books at the time.
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my peter wright post vice has the same thread cut into it, holds my hot steel very tight, my 1918 oliver chilled plow works has bolts with that kind of thread too, tighten and forget (unless worn out)
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About the persons from the picture.

I have looke back in the thick old Dutch somekind newspaper bookled about the text under this rare picture.

Wel there was nothing written about the persons next to it but there was written that the picture was taken on a huge electricity exhibithion New York to Californie as to show the people the biggest bold and nut in the world.

So it stay a mystery if the person next to the bold realy Henry Ford is.
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"IRIDIUM?! And they made 60 of them?! I call BS"
I would suspect they used an Iridium steel alloy rather then pure Iridium. Dont know what adding Iridium to steel would do but I would suspect it was supposed to make them stronger and harder.
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So it stay a mystery if the person next to the bold realy Henry Ford is.
Considering yesterday's date, I'd say that's the only existing photo of our ol' friend Ben Hadd...
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Considering yesterday's date, I'd say that's the only existing photo of our ol' friend Ben Hadd...
That would explain the big nut, now for the bolt!
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