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ODD! 4cyl Hill Diesel


my friend owns a family operated slate quarry here in eastern PA and their generator engine back at...

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Old 08-28-2011, 08:11 PM
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my friend owns a family operated slate quarry here in eastern PA and their generator engine back at the hole took a crap today..Its a 4cyl Hill diesel..Was wondering if anyone here may have spare parts or possibly know what we can do for getting them..Its also in need of a head gasket..Thanks stakers for any help!
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Default Re: ODD! 4cyl Hill Diesel

My Dad used to work at the Hill Diesel factory in Lansing Mi. There used to be a man that was always at the Mason Mi. show that had a lot of the original Hill parts. Someone from that show could help.
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Default Re: ODD! 4cyl Hill Diesel

If no NOS available anywhere, myy understanding is that either gasketstogo.com (a sponsor here) or olsonsgaskets.com (Port Orchard, WA) can make a new one if there's enough of the old one for a pattern. Good luck.
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Yeah man! Another over the hill Hill.Mine is one of the last of the 4F engines on a generator that states: Generator , Corps of Engineers--US Army Type 2 Class A--Model 4PF1--Mil G 10327 CE--Engine,--Hill Diesel Engine Company, Lansing, Michigan ----4F6713
I also find dated stuff that puts the manufacture date around 1953--is coupled to a E-M generator rated 15 KW
A heavy old brute with low hours and an intresting Diesel.When I cranked it up and ran it the valves were "whispering" to me so off with the head to reseat and about that time a man in Marshall MI. ran an add in GEM stating that he had bought the remaining parts for Hill engines.
He furnished new valves and a few little things along with a shop manual.He had no head gasket so I cleaned and inspected mine and reinstalled it.
A typical for the times Copper sheathed built up gasket and absolutely the most head bolts around the cylinders I can remember seeing let me feel good about reuse.
That's all for now but his name;
Jackm Heemsoth
9955 14 1/2 mile rd
Marshall, Mi 49068
Phone 616 781 7346

He was retired then (about 14 years ago) and he had a son in the area who trucked/worked with engines
more later
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Enginenut, thank you for the info..I will try to call him this weekend.
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I have a 2 cyl Hill diesel genset. It runs well, 7.5 kW.
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Is it the opposed piston engine?
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Daric, When I talked to mr. Heemsoth, he said he had an opposed piston Hill that he aquired with his purchase of the Hill parts.It was mostly complete and he had it at a friend's house in east Tennessee where it was being prepared to run.
I havn't talked with him in about 10 years now so I don't know where it is or what the outcome.
I have never talked with anyone else who has ever seen one in the real world--I've just seen lots of pics in the early engineering books (before 1938) and an old WW2 Navy trained diesel man said they studied the concept in school but didn't have an engine.They may not have ever made it to actual production.
Mr. Heemsoth remarked that the engine he had was very small.The books didn't give any engine dimensions.
I came across one of that design in Mass. a few years back but didn't get it.
It was a M.A.P.P. made in France for a tractor of the same name.It was about 3" bore.2 cyl, 4 pistons with 2 rods and a rocker arm linking each piston to the crankshaft.
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Yes, I have only seen the engine in print also- a quick look didn't turn it up tho, I'll have to keep searching. Neat design, but the abundance of bearings seem like it would be of short life span. Oddly enough, my brother inlaw in tennesee has a 4 cyl hill on a generator also. Funny how they have accumulated in Tenn!
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Well, We have always been aware of the "Hills of Tennessee".

Sorry, the devil made me say that.
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Old 10-05-2011, 06:53 PM
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Default Re: ODD! 4cyl Hill Diesel

wow...
good one

I found the reference to the opposed piston engine- Audel's Diesel Engine guide published 1939 page 70. Nice cutaway view. It was a two stroke also. Sorry to hyjack the thread
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