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Hart Parr 22 40


I was on u tube the other day and came accorss this video, and this is the exact same tractor that...

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I was on u tube the other day and came accorss this video, and this is the exact same tractor that was in a issue of GEM in 1984, and appartently this is the tractor where water mixed with kero, i have this issue and it is a very intersting story, anyone else heard of this story or have this issue?

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l know the issue you are refering to, I have it somewhere around home. I read that story quite a few times quite an interesting one at that. I thought it odd at the time that the rad hangs so far out over the front of the frame, did Hart Parr build it like that or is there a piece of the frame missing from the front.
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There;s a couple of real interesting points about this unit,First off it is the second oldest Hart-Parr surviving, its still owned by the same family since new, the Petersons are the great grandsons and take care of it now. And yes, family folklore is that quite by accident it was found to perform better when water was added to the carb when under load. It was reported to Hart-Parr and they did some research and sent out a new carb set up with the water injection. The radiator was enlarged early in its working life along with a few other modifications. The tractor in its present form is as it was in its working life. I think that it was mainly used in belt work as the gearing is still in good shape. It dosen't get out too often but everywhere it goes it's a show stopper! F.J.W.
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so do you know what other mods were made to this tractor, quite amazing that it still lives, now if only it were mine
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I did know at one time ,if memory serves I think that the ignition was up dated to high tension but am not positive. Possibly the camshaft assy was updated to a newer style, all this was done when the unit was fairly new. Also the tractor was originally owned by Mr Fred Schnider, who was their(Petersons)Grandmothers Batchelor uncle. If you look close at the radiator top you can see that it was legnthened at the front and at the rear to cover the extra cooling panels that were added, a very neat looking modification for a period farm repair! This tractor sat out in the pasture for about 40-50 years before Fred got it back up and running in the mid 60s. He turned down many offers for it over the years before he decided to fix it up again. F.J.W.
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This is a very intresting Hart Parr.


Almost going to say that it is the Sister of the legendary Nr.#3

Notice the exaust system, it dus have the marks of the Nr.#3.

The self made stak to cover the extra panels is also very exited.

They are not talking about a date of this tractor.

Coult be 1903, 1904 ore 1905.
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Wel i coult remember a picture somewhere in my books about a Hart Parr that was having the same roof and i have yust found it.

They are talk about this tractor in the book Oliver Tractors made by N. Pripps and Andrew Morland.

This Hart Parr was buld in 1904 and was in 1992 at the Pontiac, Illinois Thresheree.
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What is with the long front axle? The ends stick out well past the wheel hubs. I could understand if this were to belt guide pulley, but it appears to be on both sides.

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Good question, as stated Fred made a few modifications to it during it's working life. Possibly to attach a plow guide? I wonder if #3 has the same arangement on it, maybe this was only on the early tractors? In pictures of it at work in the teens shows a belt guide attached to the side of the radiator, the mounting bracket is still on it. I guess I need to look up my books on Hart-Parr and have a closer look. F.J.W.
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Wonder what the steel manufacture of the frame rails coult be on this one.
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This tractor would be down in the single digits as being one of the oldest in NorthAmerica as well as being in the same family since new
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Also the tractor was originally owned by Mr Fred Schnider, who was their(Petersons)Grandmothers Batchelor uncle. F.J.W.
Looks history repeated all the time,!!!!!!!!!!!.

Seems the early tractor collectors must have been a king, wel the old king of Holland also collected tractors, and Queens, Royals, Czars, Presidents, Captains of industry, etc etc,,,,,, and............................................... .................................... Batchelors.

Batchelors can life very poor like eating always dry bread, drive in second hand old cars, wash there self once in the week.
Barber there own hair etc etc, to save mony for a tractor.

There is also an another word in Holland for Bachelor.

Old young boys !.
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I had seen this tractor and a very old Holt of the Schneider's in the 60s and later at Pontiac, Illinois. Here are pictures this March. I posted a better picture showing the turnbuckle on the connecting rod but I cannot locate it and it won't post again.
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I had seen this tractor and a very old Holt of the Schneider's in the 60s and later at Pontiac, Illinois. Here are pictures this March. I posted a better picture showing the turnbuckle on the connecting rod but I cannot locate it and it won't post again.
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here is a video I came across on youtube this is too good not to share, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-PKLU2hI8os
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the first video is at Portland I think,the last one taken at Crown Point. is very close to its home,the Peterson's are great people. Gene
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one thing I always wondered about was why they only have the ports going to the radiator and the reg exaust going out the top and bypassing the radiator can anybody shed some light on this?
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These early Hart Parr's and the first Oil Pull's had a double ported cylinder. There is a relief port at the bottom of the cylinder to relieve any back pressure from the end of the power stroke, similar to a ported cylinder on a 2 cycle. On the Oil Pull's It was soon decided that it was unnecessary and dropped. Most were covered over and disabled. F.J.W.

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