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Old 08-21-2019, 12:52:32 AM
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This is a Homelite Generator Homelite Corporation New York Model D-8 110 Volt ( serial # 2 ) 600 watts 1920 or 1925 .. Would like more about you.. Would like to find more of these old homesite generator ..
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Old 08-21-2019, 03:08:31 AM
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Wow, that's really neat! Looks like a very early one.
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Old 08-21-2019, 06:01:34 AM
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I've got two of those, one runs good and I never got around to playing with the other. They're probably Homelite's debut into the generator business. Seems that literature is scarce on that model on that model.
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Old 08-21-2019, 09:12:31 AM
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Can you send some pictures of them would like to see them ??
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Old 08-22-2019, 11:31:48 AM
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Just for the record, I searched Homelite Corp. They started business in 1921. Were noted for rebranding other peoples products.
I went to my hoard of gensets, etc., and took a better at my two units. One is branded Homelite Corp., Port Chester NY., and has a Bosch Magneto. The other is branded
Homelite, Simms Magneto Co., East Orange NJ. and has a Simms mag. Serial nos. on both are in the 20,000's, both are model D.
Simms goes way back to Germany in the late 1800's, making magnetos and generators and later became Robert Bosch Co. They opened the NJ business around 1907, as Simms magneto Co. They were more than likely the original makers of these little air cooled gensets, AKA Homelite.
My Simms is rated 500 w, the Homelite 600w, both are 32 volts. Both unit almost identical except the mags and the shrouding on the Homelite.
However, any old engine collector can tell you, shrouds, housings and covers were the first parts removed and rarely put back.
I have an automotive generator somewhere that resembles the generator on the Simms.
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Old 08-23-2019, 10:13:22 PM
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Can you see how much it would be to ship them to me in Ohio 45420 .. It looks like you have some more old generators there .. You like the old stuff too do you get to any shows like Portland IN. show or Coolspring PA. ?? Thanks for the pictures .. I am in to these old Homelites motors I have a lot of these .. Thanks for the information on the Generators !!!
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Old 08-28-2019, 07:57:26 PM
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I have a WWII tank heater that might be good for parts someone can have. I go to Dayton, OH every few years and Mass is not that far away. Ed Stoller, New Fairfield CT.
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I have a WWII tank heater that might be good for parts someone can have. I go to Dayton, OH every few years and Mass is not that far away. Ed Stoller, New Fairfield CT.
I also have a tank heater engine,no gen on it though,just the engine. I have a military gen set still on it's pallet if it aint rotted off it.Don't know the voltage.
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Old 08-29-2019, 11:11:54 AM
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I've had this Homelight model D for many years. But have never tried to run it. It looks complete except for a base under the springs. What is the black cylinder on top of the carb. Ron
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Old 08-29-2019, 10:56:54 PM
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I'm interested in that Electric Specialty Company Direct Current Machine I spy!!
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Not positive, however it looks like part of the exhaust and is just sitting up on top of the carburetor. See https://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56176 for other pictures.

After looking at other pictures that could be a coil,,, https://www.k-bid.com/auction/26595/item/5H

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Old 08-31-2019, 10:02:52 AM
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OK so now that you guys lit the fire under me , I got my gen off of the shelf where it has been sitting for 15 years or more and got it on my bench. I dusted it off and started to check it out. It is a Simms Magneto Co. East Orange N.J. 110V 600W. I assume that it is DC. I am missing the shroud , gas tank , base under the springs , and electric outlet. So don't leave me now as I have some questions. 1, On the 110V gens , did they use a standard AC receptacle? 2, On the pictures there are two tubes from the carb to the gas tank. Why? How does this work? I am going to make a wood base and mount a gas tank. I looked at that black thing. It is a electric solenoid that operates the throttle to control the engine speed. (the engine governor) Please get back to me. Ron
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Old 09-01-2019, 06:44:43 AM
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Hey Ron, I was going to guess throttle solenoid but was confused by what looks like a hex pipe plug next to the guide sleeve.
Not sure what the solenoid is doing there.
A far out guess would be that the fuel may be some sort of an overflow type and the second pipe to the tank may be the excess fuel return. Possibly a plunger pump arrangement driven directly from the crankshaft.
I did notice the carb on yours is totally different from my two engines.

Looking back at motorpowers pics, his has the same carb as yours and the throttle solenoid. So it does belong there, however most of the solenoids I've come across are burned out.
I enlarged his last picture and can see the thing I thought was a pipe plug is a wire terminal nut.
Going back again checking the picture of my two units, the one on the right has what looks like another different carb.

What is the SN on yours.
The output plug, not sure, depends if it was a battery charging unit or direct service. Judging by the output wattage I would guess these may be direct service. I gotta go back and take better look at mine.
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Just went into my files and found these ads. They don't enlarge very well, but I think the ad in the middle says 1922 at the top.
The third ad looks like the same unit on steroids.
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Hi Gus Thanks for getting back to me. My serial No. is 2008. I am making progress on the base using some wood that I had on hand. I found a pipe? fitting on the casting that mounts to the main frame. Any idea what that is? Several years ago I built a power supply to test and run my early motors. AC & DC 2V to 130V. I used it to check out my solenoid and it worked great. As the voltage approached 110V DC it started to close the throttle opening. I propped the valve part way closed to show what it looks like. I have 3 pictures I hope I can get them on , I've been having problems posting pictures. Ron
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I saw that fitting on your first pic, first thoughts would have it part of the 2 pipe fuel system, but??? It would be handy if someone came up with a manual.

On second thoughts, take yours totally apart so we can see what's inside.
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Gus I have the base finished. I have to mount the tank. I am going to try to run it with just one fuel line. I think that it should suck the gas up with a check valve like most hit & miss engines. I am a little hesitant to take apart that casting with the magneto without knowing more about it. I did some checking on that fitting. I taped a finger from a rubber glove on the fitting , and when I turned the engine over it blew it up like a balloon. So it looks like it is an air pump. I really want to get it running and lighting light bulbs. Ron
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I have it done as far as I can go for now. I need more info to understand the fuel delivery system. It looks like Motorpower has the same carb and looks like three lines going to the tank , mine has two openings on the bottom. The one closest to the engine is threaded , the other is 5/16" dia and smooth inside goes into the fuel bowl. What lines go where? Is there a check valve? Ron
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I have a newer homelite (24a) that I’ve never messed with, but I seem to remember the dual lines and reading that one pressurized the fuel tank to force fuel to the carb... I would guess the one line is from the crankcase and would have a check ball to push air into the tank? Again, I’m NOT SURE as I haven’t played with mine and yours may be different. Hope that helps...
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The one I have sends air down into the tank, but not to pressurize the tank. Instead it turns upward at the bottom of the tank, blowing into a larger tube that leads back up to the carburetor bowl. The jet of air carries the fuel up to the bowl. There is then a drain that lets the excess fuel go back to the tank, keeping the bowl filled to the correct level.

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