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Old 01-28-2014, 11:29:44 AM
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Hello Guys,
I am new to this world and recently purchased a rare one of a kind engine. Once I have it in my possession I will give details. I am looking for advice on the does and dont's
With regards to restoring this rare engine. I want to know what is acceptable as to removing rust and bringing parts back to looking like new. I want to make sure I don't de value it by doing the wrong thing. If any of you wish to speak to me feel free to call me at 786-280-1246
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Welcome, but we r old and visual here. Well anyway, most of us r.

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Old 01-28-2014, 11:50:10 AM
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Being new to this hobby I hope someone didn't take advantage of you. There are lots of one-of-a-kind engines out there and by definition they are all rare. However being rare doesn't make something valuable unless it is something collectors want.

Looking forward to you obtaining possession of your engine and letting us know what you've got. Photos are always appreciated.
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Congratulations on your find . It's something we all hope to find some day. As far as restoration, I would do a mechanical where needed, get it running, remove the "rust" lightly, oil it down and leave it. As far as making it look like new, I wouldn't do it . It's real hard to re-do "OLD" once made like new. But that's just my $5.00 opinion. I'm sure others have theirs and you will have yours as time marches on .
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must b cold outside, how many of us r sitting in front of the screen. -7* now, have a great day
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I wouldn't say another word till you have this engine, in your posession, AT your house!!
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Old 01-28-2014, 12:47:01 PM
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must b cold outside, how many of us r sitting in front of the screen. -7* now, have a great day
Right now i'm trying to work, playing on my smart phone. -18f right now at 10:30am. Some say you need to eat very hot, spicy food to feel alive. I think this will do the same thing. The thing is the food probably won't kill you.

I look forward to seeing pictures of your new find. Pictures speak volumes. Jeff W
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Old 01-28-2014, 12:53:32 PM
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Condition dictates restoration or maintenance. The first dos and don'ts is don't do anything to it until you fully understand what you have. Post pictures of it when you get it. There's a lot of good advice on this site but impossible to give with the limited info so far.
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Check out any of Wayne Grennings threads on the Schleicher, Crossley rotary valve, Van Duzen or Goold Shapley & Muir engines. You can search them in the upper right corner of stak.

Start with page one of each and take notes.

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I will post pictures as soon as I have the engine in my shop. I just signed the sales agreement and paid for the engine but I will not get it for at least two weeks.

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I understand 100%. Its paid for with a legal contract but wont disclose till its safe in my shop. It is a rare find though (in my humble opinion).

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I wanted to thank all that posted and called me. Sorry I did not get back to you all sooner but I could not find my way back to my own post. This site is full of info and hard to navigate for a new member.

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George,

Although I am new to this I got a very good price for this engine. I am sure you will like it as soon as I post pictures.
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I cannot wait to see your rare engine find!
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When you get it, avoid the temptation to spin those flywheels over until you have confirmed that every part actuated by crank rotation is free to move. This includes valves in the guides, rocker arm joints, push rod in it's guiding, governor linkages, magneto linkages or gearing, etc. Hate to see you break something right away.

And as Paul mentioned earlier, they can only look old once.

Good luck with your new engine, Bob
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Ok Guys,
My engine deal finally went through and it is on a container and on its way. Here are a few pictures for you guys to figure out what it is. I know this engine well and their was only one of these ever made. I got it with the original plans and documentation. The seller was one of the founders which kept this engine stored in his warehouse since it was made. It is on the original skid as it was tested. I cant wait to get it so I can bring it back to life and hear it purr.

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Here are a few more pictures. The first one is a picture of this engine as it was being tested by the original designer and builder.
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I don't know what that is.

At all.

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I Think it's a Bork engine. I have some info somewhere on them. Rob
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http://www.yesterdaystractors.com/cg...oard&th=367650 might help--if it's a Bourke engine
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Thats a weird Duck there!! Be really neat to post some of the documentation,s and stuff some day. I bet that will take a while to figure that out to get it to run!! Nice!
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Rob Charles has it, here's a web site.
http://www.bourke-engine.com/history/index.htm

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Rob Charles has it, here's a web site.
http://www.bourke-engine.com/history/index.htm
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