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Old 01-14-2018, 09:03:43 PM
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The guys were talking about the ingenuity of the old time farmer using the old family automobile as a portable engine. Any body have photos of an old Model T or model A belt driving a shelled, buzz saw, fan or the like?

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Old 01-14-2018, 09:49:53 PM
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Unfortunately I don't have a picture but my father used to have a Chalmers car engine mounted on a trailer to run the threshing machine. It was a small Case 22 inch. He said it ran it fine. He made a governor arrangement and kept the transmssion. Used a larger pulley and ran it in second gear.
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I have a 21 inch demount-able Model T wheel that has a belt pulley clamped to 4 of the wooden spokes. You just drove the car to the saw, jacked up the rear wheels and put a belt on the pulley.Go to church on sunday,take the pulley off.
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Some local pics of a car pumping water, also a video of a T and sawbench at work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U31vL8s-uE
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I have seen this setup many a time. When I was a lot younger, ( 1940/1950 ) a neighbor of ours used a car to do lots of things on the 2 acre farm he had. He would saw wood, fill silo, grind cow and chicken feed, even used a bare wheel to pull hay up in the barn, He had some wheels with lugs or cross bars welded on them to use like a tractor to work the ground up. This car was a old Chev ? with half the body cut off and a home made truck bed installed. He had a newer car that had suiside doors and that was not all that uncomom back then. No pictures but lots of memorys.
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A few more from the archives, Oldsmobile cutting chaff, T hauling a saw bench, note the PTO on the front, next with a pulley on the wheel not exactly sure of the make? last a conversion for mulching up prickly pear cactus.



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My grandpa had a 1950s buick in his back yard. The body was pretty well shot, and the front was smashed. The rear end of the car frame was welded to a frame that held a big saw, about 30" in diameter. The saw was driven by a flat belt, mounted to one of the rear wheels. The other had a hand type emergency brake band mounted around the drum. Grand pa had rigged a manual throttle to the engine and would set it at a fast idle. He would put the car in drive, and He would then go to the saw, apply the hand brake, and the saw would turn. The saw would turn faster as the band locked up the one side of the rear end. Grand pa cut and split up to 12" logs, and sold the wood to make extra money during lean times. When I was a kid, he let me 'drive' the car while he cut logs He did get mad though when I used the throttle - sure made that old saw blade sing! The old rig finally quit in the early 1970s, the engine finally gave out with over 500000 miles on it. (grandpa kept a milage track ledger to figure oil changes (every 3000 miles)
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I have a pully with a 6-bolt (Chevy) lug nut pattern. Drive up, jack up the Chevy, take off wheel, bolt pully on and good to go. There was one shown in one of the "Predator" movies with Arnold in it

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This is the display I set up at our local Ford Model "A" show. Sears sold an after market pulley to use in place of the rear tire. You could than belt it to anything drive by a flat belt.. I use my 1930 PU belted to a speed reducer and than a corn sheller. The people really enjoy it!!!
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Thanks very much guys, sure shows the ingenuity of these fellows. Typac, I especially enjoyed the videos of the T powered buzz saw and the proud gentleman that put it together... ( your father?) . The first pic of the car pumping water was a sure a "trick" set- up. At first I didn't recognize what was going on there... a crank and tree limb connecting rods working a reciprocal pump
Let's see what else shows up ...

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PS, and I especially like the fan powered governor on the buzz saw rig, very creative and apparently effective.

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We had a Star 4 engine setup like Typak's youtube video. Good engine.
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I took a minute to photo this pulley.
it is a 21 inch demount-able wheel from a 26 T car.
I doubt the car would be driven very far with this installed. The owner probably would have just putt putted around the farm in low gear.
This is hub,brake drum and all. I have no knowledge of the history of this as it was just handed to me 1 day at a tech session with the model T club I am in. They know I gather odd stuff!.
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Growing up on a farm in southern MO in the 1970s, I remember seeing several small sawmills that were made from old cars. NOT just for cutting a log into firewood; we used chainsaws for that. These were real sawmills that could cut a sawlog into planking of various sizes and shaped to build a barn or a house. In one case, a Model T was pretty much stripped of everything but the engine, transmission, drive shaft, differential, and one wheel where the saw blade was installed. In the other case, some old 40s car had been more modified - the engine was bolted sideways and I don't know why the engine was moved.
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Dad used a Nash to drive the Silage blower so the H could pull the wagons from the field donít think he did that long I also remember a MM U working hard on the belt got to get mom to look For pictures Dad liked to take pictures had a developer and a dark room boy thatís come along way
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My grand-pals Turner sawmill that is still down behind his house was run by a 50's 223 6 cylinder Ford car engine and transmission. The chassis was cut behind the trans,it was in 2'd gear.A throttle lever mounted on the main 1 to make the carriage move accelerated the engine when the saw hit wood.From what I understand the previous owner of the mill set it up this way using the wrecked car with low miles as a power unit back in the late 50's and it was used at his place until the early 70's when grand-pal got it. It was run until about 1990 and grand-pal got sick and I don't guess it has been run much since.
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I took a minute to photo this pulley.
it is a 21 inch demount-able wheel from a 26 T car.
I doubt the car would be driven very far with this installed. The owner probably would have just putt putted around the farm in low gear.
This is hub,brake drum and all. I have no knowledge of the history of this as it was just handed to me 1 day at a tech session with the model T club I am in. They know I gather odd stuff!.
That pulley set-up looks like it was purpose made for that Model T application... a commercial manufactured item. They did make a lot of aftermarket stuff for "T's"

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I took a 15 hp Reid out of a pumphouse years age that had a old car up on blocks with a belt around the rim over the engine flywheel to pump the oil but did not take any pictures. The car is still there probably
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Tom, you might want to check that out. Guys are paying good money for a rust spot on the ground, then restoring it. That car might be worth something.
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a video of a T and sawbench at work.

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