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Old 08-25-2017, 07:40:52 AM
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I saw this unit at a place yesterday. There are no numbers or markings on it. I saw a picture of one last fall that had a Sawyer-Massey tag on it. Tim Hoover tells me the HCEA group that works out of the Simcoe County Museum in Ontario has three of them and only one identified, which is a John Deere.
Looks like something many companies would make.
Anyone have any thoughts? Given its location in the Niagara area, it could be a Sawyer, or possibly a JD (Dain).
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Old 08-25-2017, 01:31:24 PM
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Frame rails look to be Killefer.This particular one could still be a John Deere/Killefer as Killefer made some scrapers (Tumble Bugs) for JD.This one looks to have survived pretty well as most i have seen are rotted out
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Frame rails look to be Killefer.This one looks to have survived pretty well as most i have seen are rotted out
Looks good......except almost Entire trip / latch mechanism is missing.
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Not sure if anyone holds patent to this design, but I have one built in Australia by Britstand (British Standard Machinery Co.) and sold widely here by ISAS who were IH construction dealers. Were a few similar designs in the market here in the post war period. Built several farm dams with one behind a HD5 crawler in those days. Regards,
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I think he has the rest of the mechanisms.
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G There was a period of time when all major construction equipment manu. made these units. I have never seen one as narrow and fat as yours. I have a 5 Ft and a 6 Ft in my collection just the right size to pull behind one of my Fordson Trackson conversions. They are always rusty and usually missing any ID tags because they always got rubbed off.
Rick today doing research for next "Attic" I learned we were both featured or mentioned in the very first issue of "Antique Power". It is amazing to me what has happened to us over the last 30 years. Ed B "The Yankee"
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I once borrowed a little tumblebug scraper sort of like that, except it had wheels behind the bowl to carry it. Neat little unit, it hooked to a bar between the bottom links of the 3-point, so you regulated the cut & dump with the 3-pt. It had a trip to roll the bowl to dump. it wasn't a factory unit, a guy here had built 10 of them from plans, & bought 10 8N Fords new to level some desert ground above the canal, had to pump water up to it...
The guy I borrowed it from wouldn't sell it because his Dad had worked on that job & got the scraper from the man who built it, but he let me borrow it to move some dirt. Said that place looked like an anthill with all those little tractors running around...I think the place had about 80-100 acres above the canal.
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Toby (Squatch253) is using his at 6:35 of this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgVakYgKX10
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For reference this is according to the tag a "JD/Killifer No. 4 rollover farm scraper". Its 4' wide, same width as our tractor pictured. That youngster pictured just turned 30 last week.



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Rick today doing research for next "Attic" I learned we were both featured or mentioned in the very first issue of "Antique Power". It is amazing to me what has happened to us over the last 30 years. Ed B "The Yankee"
Ed? does that mean we are getting olde?
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tumble bug = "scoop over" down under and a "chinaman" = ????
skip to 16:00 thru 17:00 to see scoop over & "chinaman".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuWv7LlP73c
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I know the "Aussies" have some strange names for things .... but what the heck is "Road Metal" ?


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right… it looks 2b plain ol limestone 2 me.
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Missed the reference to "road metal" but on my side of Australia the crushed and screened blue granite used for bitumen road surfacing is still known as "blue metal". Maybe in other parts where the granite is not blue, it becomes "road metal". It's a good hard wearing road surface and great for strong concrete also.
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In NZ a "metal road" is one spread with loose stone (i.e. metal). Sometimes known as a gravel or unsealed road. Still plenty of metal roads to be found here. The term "dirt road" is not used here as far as I know. A lot of "dirt tracks" can be found off-road however

A great film of roadworks in Australia. And the "tumblebug" is a new one for me.
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Well I'll be dipped in ............


Metal
1 .....
2 .....
3 ... Broken rock used for repairing or making roads




That's a new one on me.

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A name that was common around here was Macadamized, or a Macadam road:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macadam

The first roads here were corduroy, with logs laid down:

http://kitchener.ctvnews.ca/second-c...rloo-1.2890855

There used to be an old corduroy road that ran in front of our farm house. Dad said he sometimes hooked on to the old logs with the cultivator.
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A buddy of mine hooked one of his Killifer tumblebugs to his tailseat Best 30. He was going to test it out before taking it to our tractor show several years ago. He drug it and got it loaded up and when he tripped the handle it came over and clobbered him. Like to of brained him... needless to say he left it at home.
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Dad had one like that and it had a DAVID-BRADLEY brass tag on it, so I kinda think they might have been made to be sold by many brands!---Might have made a few small changes in design for different brand sellers!---just my .02 thanks; sonny
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We have 2 of the David Bradley ones here. The one Dad bought new and used it to dig the basement of his house and he also dug out the farm pond back in the late 40s. The other one my father in law had and he used it to dig his small farm pond with and convert an old gulley to a nice controlled waterway back in the early 60s. He had a horse pulled scraper pan with wooden handles that he used as a boy. It was dangerous, if you hooked into a root it would throw the poor guy on the handles into orbit.
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