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Since this doesn't really fit anywhere else I thought I'd post it here,

I was given this tug by my bosses FIL, I thought it was a Clark but a google image search doesn't seem to come up with anything that resembles it. It's got a 225cu in Chrysler slant 6 and a torqueflite auto trans that goes to a reduction box that drops the drive to the rear of the diff.

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Some older Tugs used slant 6's, and I believe Wollard made them as well. It sure looks like a Clark, but those primarily had Ford 6 cyl. engines in them..

No DATA plate anywhere, huh?
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Might it be a Towmotor?
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My first thought is a United, from Chesterton IN.
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Some older Tugs used slant 6's, and I believe Wollard made them as well. It sure looks like a Clark, but those primarily had Ford 6 cyl. engines in them..

No DATA plate anywhere, huh?
Looked everywhere ! There is the remains of 4 rivets under the dash panel and my thinking is it was there but was removed at some point. It was still in use at Perth airport 10 yrs ago at one of the workshops there, but was decommissioned for the hydraulic handbrake. Bosses FIL saved it from scrap to use at his yacht club for shifting boats around etc, but the club didn't want to spend money for new rear tyres so it ended up at a small acreage he owned. (Where the pics were taken ). I should also mention it's construction yellow under the white paint.
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Terry over on machine builders network has an identical model. Calls it "big ugly". I'll inquire with him who made them and get back to you. Might be interesting to read his posts about his. http://kramerville.net/ubb/
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I don't think any of the tugs where I work are vintage, but we have quite an assortment. Mostly Clarks but FMC, Stewart & Stephenson and some others I would have to research, all in daily use.
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Posted pics?
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I have one only different.

It was made in Hillsboro Oregon out of odd parts. Electric, ride on it standing on a pad and you tilt forward to go forward, and yes back to stop. Hand speed control. Was obviously used for small aircraft. unfortunately it was too close to his burn pile and the tires burned off of it. Speed control is messed up, however the motor works.

If I never put it back together for moving trailers or something, I will use the axle to make a kid sized dragster or something.
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Terry over on machine builders network has an identical model. Calls it "big ugly". I'll inquire with him who made them and get back to you. Might be interesting to read his posts about his. http://kramerville.net/ubb/
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Thaumaturge maaaaaattttteeeee! You cracked it! I had a look through Terry's Flickr account and found a pic of his data plate, Dave Myers is correct it was built by United.

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/studeb...ry/4724152717/
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Glad to be of help. Glad info was enough... as Terry hasn't answered the PM I sent him over there as yet. Noticing your location I can now report to him that he's world famous... He'll like that.
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Hi

I flew DC6 with James a long time ago.

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I flew DC6 with James a long time ago
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I agree I have flown many of them. J3 to Challenger 604 and a lot in between it was a 55 year journey.
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Andrew, I'm glad that my pictures helped you out. I bought my tug (BIG UGLY) from a friend that I call my "brother in junk". He has several more that he picked up including a couple with cabs. I paid $250 for the tractor, $150 for another motor as the original spun a rod bearing. I mounted a three-point quick hitch attachment on the back $100, Bought a Harbor Freight 13hp motor $350, to power the hydraulics for a Yanmar backhoe attachment $700. At a bit under $1500 I have ended up with a very capable tractor that has been in many of the projects around here including putting up Christmas lights. I did take the 1900lb weight out of the back, mostly because I wanted to be able to service the rear axle without crawling under. My son's 2000lb engine hoist actually squealed as it picked that weight up! I don't miss the weight with the backhoe hanging off the back. That did present some undesirable effects as the tractor would now do a rather impressive wheel stand at the most inopportune times. I countered that by building a dozer blade for the front. I have more pictures that I want to post I'll see if I can get them up in the next couple of days.
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Looks like a Clarke to me
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Hey Terry! Yea your Flickr account was a goldmine of info! If only I could find a data plate like yours, as for the rear weight I thought the loader knew it had it 1900 lbs is a shade over 860kgs. I'm Going to turn the void into a toolbox of sorts, I had a read through your posts over on the MBN, interesting stuff. I'm hoping to have it drivable of sorts this afternoon.
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Andrew, mine is scary fast as it had the governor removed when I got it. Spinning the slant up to where I get feeling uncomfortable it will do every bit of 25 mph or maybe a bit better. Mine was only equipped with rear brakes which can be marginal at best. I had to remove the emergency or parking brake as the lining had stuck to the drum and detached from the shoes. I think I found some Ford Escort shoes that are identical. I haven't had time to explore this further. I have an aircraft style set of chocks for the wheels and park works good on the transmission. I put the hydraulics on a separate motor because I got tired of hearing the slant slurping down fuel while digging. Trying to figure out how fast I could spin the motor and not overspeed the pump while travelling just got downright tedious. I had already split the housing on one pump by forgetting.
My wife had said a few weeks before I got the thing, " Why don't we just go out and buy a new one? ". After I showed her the prices on small tractors she said "Oh".
Many times when the 40 year old carburetors were fickle with today's gas, I have pondered my decision. I am presently using a Solex 30 pict-3 carb off an old aircooled Volkswagen. It seems to like the carb, idles nice and gets around the place well and is a miser on fuel. I would probably get in trouble if I ran it at high rpm's for an extended period of time.
The old thing is just a junkyard dog that is pretty docile at times. I have learned that doing things like pulling stumps is best done from the front and backing up. Faced with
a stubborn object from the rear will cause the front wheels to leave the ground rather dramatically. I doubt that it would ever go over due to all the stuff hanging off the back, it a rather unpleasant experience. Even with the dozer blade on the front I am careful to back up steep grades as the front wheels become increasingly ineffective. This is with out the backhoe attachment, with it REALLY makes the front light. Without the dozer blade I can grab the brush guard on the front and pick the front of the tractor up! Just remember that these old critters were for flat and level.
Eventually I am going to put a front end loader on it, which may cause problems due to the leaf springs on the front. Not being designed to carry much weight on the front, the only thing that I would change immediately would be the front tires to forklift ones.
I have to go for now, other tasks await.
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I got all of 19mph out of mine, due to the plate in the governor ahhh " falling off"..... I'm going to fit a 12v Hyde power pack I have into the weight void on the back to run a small crane I have that dad had on the ute for picking up randoms things around the farm.
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