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Old 02-14-2018, 03:36:27 AM
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That would be great . Thanks .
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Here are pictures of the engine tag of a UD-14 engine that is in a galion grader. Your engine tag may be on the side of the engine block. Here are two places you may try for your parts. You may tell them you have a UD-6 or M-D tractor engine.
www.steinertractor.com or www.yesterdaystractor.com
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Old 02-14-2018, 08:46:22 PM
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Thanks for that . If Iím home from work tomorrow before dark I will try to find the tag .
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Old 02-15-2018, 08:20:29 PM
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Iím afraid all thatís left of my engine tag is a couple of rusty rivets . Tag is long gone .. the injector pump has a tag. Would that help trace the engine no / etc ?
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I don't think the tag on the injection pump will help. I think if you talk to someone that sells engine parts, they would tell you if the TD-6, MD tractor engine, and UD-6 parts are the same.
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Old 02-15-2018, 11:12:25 PM
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Thatís very nice

---------- Post added at 02:29:27 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:21:22 PM ----------

So got some numbers off mine this evening.
Numbers on the head are
9 23 M
8228DE

While number on the engine seems to be
8290D9

Would that make it an international D9 made in 1943?
Whatís the chance of getting a head gasket for one ? I donít know why it was stripped over 30 years ago . I guess frost crack might be a likely reason? Where would it be prone to crack ? Any info would be great. I guess I coukd really use a manual for the engine and the roller. Any ideas where I might look ? Also any photos of similar rollers would be good . Is there a register of these rollers on file anywhere? Iíd love to know how it got to this part of the world.
DID this head come off this engine or was it off when you got it? There is a discrepancy between the numbers you gave.

First the head:
9 23 M = SEPTEMBER 23 1943 Component Casting date.
8228DE = PU8 = U-6 & UD-6 Power Unit,
PU17 = IU-6 & IUD-6 Tractor-Engine-Over-Axle-Unit,
TC23 = T-6 & TD-6 Crawler Tractor,
TC28 = Farmall M, MV, MD and MDV Tractors,
TC33 = McCormick-Deering O-6, OS-6, W-6 and WD-6 Tractors,
TC34 = International I-6 and ID-6 Tractors.

With the third valve in the head on each cylinder it IS a diesel thus knocking out anything without a "D" in the description. the UD-6, IUD=6, TD-6, MD, MDV, WD-6 and ID-6 ALL use the same 6 designation or 248 Cubic Inch engine.

Second the number on the engine seems to be:
8290D9E of which 8290DBE is the nearest number I could get in my book.
So 8290DBE = PU-11 = U-9 & UD-9 Power Unit,
= TC-24 = T-9 & TD-9 Crawler Tractor,
= TC-32 = W-9, WR-9, WD-9 & WDR-9 Tractors,
= TC-35 = I-9 & ID-9 Tractors.
Again taking away anything short the "D" as they are not Diesels leaves you with UD-9, TD-9,WD-9, WDR-9 and ID-9. This would be a 9-series engine or 335 cubic inch's.

Per the numbers given this head will NOT fit the block. I got this info from my copy of the 19-XPC Index of Parts Numbers.
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ihredo4, he said the bore is 3 7/8".
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Is it possible the 9 engine has had sleeves fitted to suit a 6 head? This would be a pretty unusual engine over here so I really dont know what the chances of having a rogue head are . I will see over the weekend if the head fits the block I guess .

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I should also say the head was not on the engine when I got it . It came with a bucket of bits like the valves , injectors , springs etc . I guess someone could have picked up the 6 head . But the bore of the block is 3 and 7/8 which is a 6 not a 9.
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Old 02-16-2018, 09:50:52 PM
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ihredo4, he said the bore is 3 7/8".
True, I forgot that was mentioned but going by the numbers supplied I wanted to offer up what the Index of Part Numbers. He did mention the engine number seemed to be 8290D9. To my knowledge IH never ended a Part Number with a number. It was always an Alpha character. Anyhow my bad for not reviewing the complete thread.

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Is it possible the 9 engine has had sleeves fitted to suit a 6 head? This would be a pretty unusual engine over here so I really dont know what the chances of having a rogue head are . I will see over the weekend if the head fits the block I guess .
Not sure why anyone would sleeve a 9 engine to a 6 piston diameter but the block from a 9 is longer than a 6 anyway so its a moot point. Likely the number of the block that you wrote down was in error somehow. With the 19-XPC you cant cross-reference an engine component to part number so don't have a guess to the correct part number.
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Old 02-17-2018, 12:17:28 PM
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Off work today so had a better look at it . The number on the engine reads 8280DH .
The number on the head is 8228DE
The head is the correct length for the block . Sorry for the incorrect numbers .
Hope that clears up the confusion Iíve created and you can tell me what I actually have .
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