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General Squawking About Windows Update


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Makes me shiver to read all this stuff. I am glad my old Xp machine is still working. but when i do have to update, I don't think any of the new stuff will work with dial up because of all the update crap built into it.
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Wahooo! I've hit the mother lode!

I kept seeing web pages indicating that I should download and install Microsoft update kb3102810. In fact, I saw Microsoft support trying to do that update while they were logged in on my system. But, it wouldn't install.

Here's the catch: Download kb3102810 (in my case 64 bit) to the downloads directory, turn off your computer, disconnect the internet cable, boot it up, double click kb3102810, it installs itself, turn off the computer, reconnect the LAN cable, boot it up.

Run Windows Update. Now 228 Updates came in and they are now in the downloading process. 995.4 Mb! So far 56% complete and the hard drive is going nuts! (Previously, it just sat there fat, dumb and happy.)

Should be fine now! Disconnecting the internet while installing keeps WU from running and conflicting with the update.

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/w...f744c52?auth=1

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Makes me shiver to read all this stuff. I am glad my old Xp machine is still working. but when i do have to update, I don't think any of the new stuff will work with dial up because of all the update crap built into it.
What the heck browser are you using on an XP machine?
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FF on this old 2005 XP box.
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It took all night to get all those Windows Updates installed and now there's even more coming in. It's working like a clock and fast at that! Totally amazing!

Next I've got a notebook on Windows 7 that needs the same treatment. Also, Jeannie's desktop machine is still on XP and needs 7.

If you have a router, don't overlook that it needs occasional firmware updates too.
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That sounds like my wife's laptop, in a sense. Probably if I hadn't done ANY updates until now, it would have been just like that.

After it did the 39 updates, it found more. The not-so-nice thing is that some setting was changed, and the 10 or 11 updates I'd refused to do (until after I'd checked them) - it did them anyway, on a shutdown. At least, however, all of the "trick you into accepting 10" stuff is gone. (I'll need to see if they installed the 10 spyware on her laptop.)

I guess they decided that "recommended" meant "You don't have a choice any more!"

Anyway, it's a relief when the things are working right. I'm glad the problem is solved for you!
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I know a tech who disables updates on every machine she does. She thinks computer should stay with OS installed when it was manufactured, because it was designed and optimized for that version of OS.

She has a point. We have had several discussions in which I say that drivers for video, sound, etc. are sometimes revised and improved later on, and bugs in OS or security holes patched. We agree to disagree, but I would not fault anyone who disables updates.
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thinks computer should stay with OS installed when it was manufactured... agree to disagree
That somewhat sums it up. A new OEM OS (Think brand new Dell/HP or even Apple) has an OS tailored/customized for that machine so performance and experience should be close to ideal, as long as nothing is changed. On the other hand... nothing is ever perfect. There will always be bugs/glitches and security exploits that the developers didn't think of. It is very important to update however it can be equally as damaging/harmful (to the user experience) if you blindly check "yes install/update all". Why install updates/patches to things you don't use?

I've ditched all but three MSFT OS'es. What I have left is all virtual: an Active Directory server (working on switching that over to CentOS), an 8.1 x64 machine that I need to manage VMware, and a 32-bit W7 laptop which runs some factory/manufacturer software in XP SP2 Compatibility Mode so I can work on my vehicles. Other than that its all *nix, BSD and OSX.
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OSX?
MAC OS?
Have to pay for that?
Need Apple machine to run it?
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OSX?
MAC OS?
Have to pay for that?
Need Apple machine to run it?
Yes OSX = Mac/Apple OS. Pay for it... Yes and no. The OS is "free" with the (ridiculously expensive) Apple machine it runs on. People have figured out how to put OSX on PCs and other things so technically (you void the license agreement) but you *can* run it on some non-Apple hardware. I have it running virtual on VMware, as well as properly, on Apple hardware. I used to be very against it but now I'm somewhat of a fan. Has a lot of things native that Windows doesn't (like a command prompt that supports ssh). The hardware is also a bunch more ergonomic than Windows laptops and the other fringe OS'es (*nix derivatives) don't have software support for many things I need.
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