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Pivot pin and parts are in the machine shop, 316 stainless is being used, they were cutting the material today, so should be done within a week, fitting in with other work, although we are a paying customer

Also, we bought an EN16T steel billet in 2011 for a spare pin, that never got used so they are going to turn that up at the same time, to give us a working spare.

We've never had any problems with the steering pivot pin, but before we start next year's season we are going to pull it out and get it crack tested, just to be sure.

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Got a sneak look at the trailer pivot parts, all the turning work is done, just the two lower flanged parts need four holes milling.

The pivot pin nearest the camera is made from EN16T steel, the rest is 316 stainless steel, as per the first set we made.

Pin is 75mm diameter,

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Pre-cut steel delivered today, big bearing carrier box sections being machined.

Picked up the stainless bits as well from next door.

I have to make the big nylon washer up for the thrust pad, material is here.

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Thrust pad turned up out of a piece of 8mm 5/16" sheet of black Nylon.

This goes between the top of the top box section and the top of the axial thrust bearing, and takes the weight of the entire front end of the trailer.

Just waiting for the machining of the two big box section pieces.

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Two support box sections are back from machining.

I have to cut down some 3/4" UNF bolts and get the heads reduced in depth, then weld them in place.

Once the chassis is assembled there is no access inside the box except through the larger hole when the pivot pin and bearings are removed.

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End of the season wrap-up time!

Got to spray some preservative over the brightwork on the two Rustons, then put a sheet over them for the winter.

The 1ZHR lives in the big trailer, which is pretty much watertight, but we still throw a decent waterproof PVC/Nylon sheet over it to stop any moisture condensing on the metal.

The 6AP Ruston lives inside the storage barn at present, and that will have the same treatment with another sheet going over it, plus we wrap the magneto in a plastic bag to keep moisture at bay.

These are our two main engines that we take to shows, and apart from regular cleaning they don't need much in the way of maintenance. The big diesel Ruston goes year to year with no work at all, we just use good quality fuel and oil and make it work for a living.

The 6AP is new to us and is engine only, so we have bought a 30V dynamo, 1260W output rating to run from the engine and give it something to work against. It is throttle-governed so no trouble to load it up.

Got to look at booking the ferry for Nuenen in June 2017 next....

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I was out all day yesterday, changing some batteries in a sub-station in Leeds, but got a few minutes on the parts this morning, trial assembly of the lower housing and main pivot pin.

The M30 cap head screw does screw right home.

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The drawbar pivot pins and bushes are made up, the pins are M30 bolts cut down, the bushes are welded into the box section of the front axle framing to give a bearing surface.

The pin heads are locked to the drawbar so they can only move with the drawbar.

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Put a new DCMT tool in the lathe and turned the 3/4" UNF bolt heads down to 10mm thick.

This allows the bolts to be fitted from the inside of the box section.

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We have all of the laser-cut pieces, except the Z-section bracing pieces that go over the step joints in the main frame, they will be here later this week.

Pictures show the right-angle body brackets in 6mm steel, the body retaining brackets in 2mm stainless, the gussets with 16mm holes for the tie-down eye bolts and the rest of the plain gussets for around the two big box sections.

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Ordered some 3/4" UNF nuts from an ebay supplier, they sent 3/8" UNF....

Got a couple of Nylocs turned down so we could weld the 3/4" bolts into the box section and check to see how the bearings seated on the surfaces that had been machined.

All looks OK, will finally assemble next week, then we are taking all of the 'small' bits down to the metalbashers to have a chat about the final chassis assembly.

There is also a big weld waste mark inside where the box was welded, I'll have to take that out with the Dremel where the plastic spacer sits against that face. You can see it at the top inner face on the second picture.

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Replacement 3/4" UNF nuts turned up this morning, plus an 1-1/16" combination spanner.

Then I realised that Nylocs are 1-1/16" A/F, but the plain nuts are 1-1/8" A/F, so I'll need another spanner for the plain nuts

Went up to the farm today and put the big 6-wheel trailer into its winter home, it's on hard standing and between the farm buildings and a row of containers so protected from the weather to a degree,

As the ground was a bit soft I used the low range on the Discovery and kept the rev's down, gently does it

We have put preservative oil onto the exposed bits of the engine in the back of the trailer, and it has a decent sheet over it as well.

Looking forward to our first outing next year!

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One of the last jobs to do, cleaning out the seam weld inside the top box section. Had I thought of it at the time, I could have asked for the holes to be reversed in the two faces, as the larger hole doesn't have anything inside that bears on that face, so the weld wouldn't matter.

As it is I got the grinder in and cleaned it up today. The 8mm thick plastic washer goes between the thrust bearing and the inside top face, taking all of the front axle weight.

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All the material is at the metalbashers for final assembly, we have kept the axles and wheels back as they haven't the room to store those inside at present.

We took the small fittings and trailer coupling down last week.

Final chassis assembly has been pushed back to January as they are stacked out with work and need a big area for the chassis to be welded up in.

Final few tweaks to the drawings, nothing major, and then we'll have to wait for the call.

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Happy new Year to everyone, hope you all had a good Xmas.

The final metal pieces were laser cut for the chassis and should be in the workshop at Eastbourne next week. We didn't order sufficient of the plain gussets, and didn't order the two large gussets for the outside of the step in the frame.

Small plain gussets are fairly well used:


Philip welding one of the big gussets on the 6-wheel chassis:


Big gussets more visible from the side:


My medical for my truck driving licences (Group 2 Vocational Licences) was this week, they take it away at 70 yrs and you have to take a pretty stiff medical before you get it back again.

With the heart operation and the breast cancer, I have had to postpone renewal until I was medically OK to take the medical exam.

Fingers crossed!

Peter

NB: Our basic car licence allows me to drive a car up to 3.5 tons plus a similar weight trailer. Then you go to the Group 2 licences, C1 and C1E for trucks up to 7.5 tonnes and a trailer to 4.5 tonnes if you have the full licence. The last one I have is a full truck licence, C and CE, that allows me to drive a rigid truck up to 4 axles and a trailer, combined weight 32 tons I think.
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Good luck, Peter, with the license.

I guess if you don't get it, you could have Rita get one. Then, you would have a driver and you could just sit back and relax.
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Good luck, Peter, with the license.

I guess if you don't get it, you could have Rita get one. Then, you would have a driver and you could just sit back and relax.
Rita already has a C1 / C1E licence, that is up to 8250kg truck and trailer train weight.

If you passed your driving test prior to 1997 you get a 'Grandfather Rights' licence, with a Code 107 against the groups on your licence photocard, that limits the weight to 8250kg train weight. The full weight is 12000kg which you get if you take the driving test for that group..

I need the C1 licence to drive the Mercedes by itself, but the C1E licence (truck and trailer) isn't heavy enough for the Mercedes and our 6-wheel trailer with the Ruston in the back, as that would gross 9400kg against 8250 kg allowed on my licence, which would have the Code 107 restriction.

That's where the heavier C and CE licences come in, I can drive the Mercedes and trailer on my CE licence (40 tons) but holding that licence uprates the C1E to the full 12000kg, so it covers me both ways.

There's another 'gotcha': Under C1E licences, the laden weight of the trailer must not exceed the unladen weight of the towing vehicle, so in the case of our 6-wheel trailer, the towing vehicle must weigh more than 3500kg. If I tow using the Discovery on my car licence, that doesn't apply.

It's a bit convoluted!

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Bit of an update, our metalworkers have been bought out by one of their bigger customers and are moving to bigger premises, so the trailer chassis assembly has had to be postponed for a while.

We are taking a break after two years of medical stuff, we will be in CA for a couple of weeks, hoping for some warmer weather.

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