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Horse Drawn Equipment Old iron designed for the purpose of hitching up to a horse or a team. This old iron machinery may be used or demonstrated while hooked to an old iron tractor too.

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Malleable iron or cast iron

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Old 01-08-2017, 09:50:36 PM
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Default Malleable iron or cast iron

I am looking for wagon steps for horse drawn wagons. Ebay has many but most are listed as cast iron steps. My book of historic horse drawn wagon hardware shows steps of steel and malleable iron. No cast iron. I suspect the "antique" wagon steps listed on Ebay are incorrectly labeled as cast iron and are probably malleable iron or steel but I am not sure. I don't know how to tell the difference in a photo of malleable or cast iron. Were any historic wagon steps make of cast iron? I think they would be too brittle to support a sudden thrust of a heavy person jumping up or down on a step. Any thoughts?
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Default Re: Malleable iron or cast iron

I know nothing at all about antique wagons....but, I would have to agree that the steps you see advertised on ebay and other sites, if they are truly vintage steps, are made of malleable iron. CI would snap too easily, especially if someone weighing 250 plus jumped on them at 10 degree temps.....Its virtually impossible to tell the difference just by eye or a photo if something is Cast Iron or Malleable Iron.
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Default Re: Malleable iron or cast iron

Well, the only clue is that very small sections can be cast in malleable iron, which is white iron as cast. Gray iron, commonly known as 'cast iron', is generally somewhat thicker and will not flow as well as the white iron. Fluidity differences are about all the visible clues you will have.
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Default Re: Malleable iron or cast iron

There is a slight difference in the spark. Need to do it in a dark room and have samples of cast, at least, to compare to There's not a lot of difference but the malleable spark is slightly longer with less bursts.
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Default Re: Malleable iron or cast iron

I can not help on knowing the difference between metals just by looking at them.

But I am a step collector of horse drawn vehicles. I mainly look for steps with a name on them. So I'm watching ebay very frequently. Many of the sellers have no idea what the are selling. I often see items being sold as steps were never steps. The biggest joke I see often is cattle watering cups with the actuator the cow would push down on to open the valve and allow water in the cup, these are many times sold as buggy steps!!!

I don't actually have any extra wagon steps right now. But feel free to look at to see what I do have.
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