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Hanomag AR38 with D52 Engine


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Old 12-02-2016, 05:00:05 PM
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Hello Retrofit,

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It also still has the double battery tray, one for the 6 volt battery for the glowing system ( the beru 171w's are 6 volt) and a 12 volt battery for starting. That would mean you have a 12 volt generator with a risistor for the 6 volt battery.
That is wrong.

There were two 6V batteries on this original battery tray used on the engines with a electric starter. On the panel under the fuel tank, facing to the engine, there was a switch mounted to convert the 6V system to a 12V system for starting.
The starter in these tractors ran on 12V.

Some RD36 and later the AR38 had a smaller battery tray. They were prepared for a single 6V battery, only for lighting and glowing.

I will search for wiring plans and will try to take some pictures. Somewhere might be one of the 6V/12V switchers around here I can use for pictures. Might take a week or two.

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https://youtu.be/tjrmoYVBKNA

Hannah was running last Thursday. What a great Christmas gift.
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Nikki congratiulations with the running of Hannah,

In the early days of collecting we also had an Hannah,
It was an more light model.
We had some problems with the engine and the one of us had an airblower on the side.
It was an strange noise and the noise looked the same as an duck car.

We trade the one of us 20 years ago near an old French tractor import men in the south of Holland for an coople cases.



I have heart some story’s from you that you where looking some info about the tractor like an owners manual.

In the place called Duiven close to Arnhem there was alway one of the most biggest and oldest Hannah dealers of Europe hidding called Jansen.

20 years ago we been there an coople times for parts.
They had an big counter with 5 or 7 men behind it to help.

I have been looking on the internet for you and it looks the company still exist.

You can try there aswel to look for some more info.

http://www.jansenduiven.nl/pages/




Have been more in this place because in the early days of collecting we also had an tractor friend that had shets full of old tractors imported from France.
He had family that worked in the 60’s and 70’s traveling with an circus thru France.

The friend passed away and the tractors are sold.

Thanks for sharing your Hannah story,

Chris,
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You have all been so good to us over time helping us find information and sharing your stories. We had a gentleman from South Africa come and visit the tractor barns on 12/29/16. His daughter and son-in-law are avid Meat Shop customers and asked that Dudley venture to the barn on the cold winter day. Dudley was in a meeting when they arrived early, so I took the trio to Barn 2 since that's where the foreign tractors live, the most Prairie Tractors, the steamers, etc.. When he came around the Yuba Ball Tread, he almost came unglued with excitement to see Hannah parked in the center aisle.

His ancestors worked for Hanomag and he is sending us a German-language Hanomag book that he is certain will help with the final adjustments to keep her running well. Dudley and Fritz stood out there talking in that barn, with the cold radiating off the steel out there, like they had known each other for years. It has been a long journey that we would not be able to undertake without the generous feedback we have received on this site. We feel like everything happens for a reason and in its own time. Thank you all for your graciousness. Happy New Year!
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Hi there,

my first visit to the stack for months and first I saw was your PM so I started looking for this thread and the video link.
It is running very great!

I think your fellow will send you this book:
http://www.schwungrad-versand.de/fir...uchsvolle.html
It is the best and the only book to work on this engine with. It would have been my source for the wiring diagrams for you, but having the book yourself would be easier.

I made some pictures of the switch to turn it from 6V to 12V for starting. Hope to find time during the next days to load them up here.

Kind regards,
Fabian
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Hello Fabian,

Here's the partslist for the startingsystem. It is with one 12 volt battery.
I have never seen one with two 6 volt batteries for starting. You also would not need a small and a big batterytray if you have two of the same 6 volt battery's.
As you can see the alternator is also 12 volt.
If you find the wiring plan let me now, i have not found it yet.

Greetings,
Pim
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Hello Pim,

in the book I postet the link of above there are several different wiring plans.

If you have one 6V battery, you need the small battery tray. If you have two 6V ones, you need the big one which contains a larger flange on the left side of the transmission, in the area of the engraved transmission number. That number also shows the original ratio of the gearbox, symbolized by the letter.

Did we meet at Nordhorn in February at Johanns with Richard? Or last year in August?

Kind regards,
Fabian

---------- Post added at 11:47:57 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:43:58 AM ----------

I also have one double 6v-tray around here, I dont know whether it was on a R40 oder RL20 as these two tractors ran on the farm I got it from.
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It is a small world Fabian,
Yes we did meet there

The wiring diagram:
"24volt anlage mit anlasser fur hanomag diesel raupen und radschlepper"
is the closest to what was original on this tractor but then with one 12 volt battery in this case.
Don't ask me why they made it so complicated
Not everything is in the books
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Hello Pim,

it was you who gave me the mail adress for the tow tractor of our JD combine, wasn´t it? Just to get your face back in mind.
I have to admit that I lost the sheet of paper somewhere here at home. Could have happened that we would have met yesterday, but some things prevented me from driving towards Spelle. Have you been succesful?

Most about the battery trays on the 36/38er Hanomags I learned from Cord, we talked several times while standing beside my AGR38.
So I think you might know the Hanomags better than me, I did not work that much on them.

Kind regards,
Fabian
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