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Can you really live off grid?


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Where in creation are utilities still putting in NEW services with overhead wires?.......
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i have a friend that has free natural gas on his property and a natural gas generator. don't know if that's off grid, but he doesn't have any utility bills
I wish I could do that! All I have found on my property is rocks!
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local electric coop absolutely will not allow anyone (unless a line outfit under contract by them) to put up a line with a transformer on the end
Correct - you can't put up hi line, but you may be able to put the poles up, and they install the hi line. That should cut the cost. If the distance is so long that you need hi line and a can at your end, then there is more ugly.
Try thinking out of the box a bit. Maybe they will allow you to come in with 480 and drop it to 120/240 at your house. That halves the drop, and the cans have taps on them, so you can go to a higher tap - say 125/250 to keep full load drop within acceptable limits. We did an installation where they designed for 130/260 once. 130 volt bulbs are readily available.
Yea, the nearest 3 phase is 5 miles off but we have talked about coming off the transformer and running through a rotary phase convertor and going 3 phase the mile to my place. Of course the cost of me doing all that was still over half the ECs cost and if I have a major component failure a couple times I may not be ahead. Where the electric company's wire ends and I would tie on is my shop, its the end of the line and we have problems buring single phase motors up, my air compressor can make the neighbor's lights blink at times and I go through florecent light bulbs like they were machine gun bullets so the power source I am hooking onto is marginal at best. I asked the company for a large transformer and they said the line would not support a larger one. Thanks

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Where in creation are utilities still putting in NEW services with overhead wires?.......
Where on Earth do they put them underground other than from the street to your house? Most of the time the company puts in the transformer and meter and you either take the wire to your house or hire an independent contractor to do it. There are still many NEW applications around here where the farmer brings the wire in overehead from the meter. Done a shed myself a couple years ago like that. My local electric company will not do more than 1/8th of a mile underground unless you pay the whole amount.
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Texas has NO problem with overhead wires, years ago we had to make a big stink with the power company to get them to bring in power from a neighbors service line to a pole set on the edge of the property, from there we buried cable to the house, had to do same thing with the warehouse. With a crane in the yard we wanted no overhead lines.
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Ive often contemplated this, firstly I would convert my power to 24 volt DC, run an inverter for any thing that requires a higher voltage, but have most items like TVs, stereos, etc as 12 or 24 volt, and use higher voltage items sparingly.
so a combination of solar cells and wind turbines, 24 volt wind turbinesare quiet common in yachting, though I would preferr a vertical drum fan over a conventional propeller, as a drum fan would cope with dirty air flows that are fouled by trees and other buildings.
Cooking and Fridges, freezers can be done off gas ie LPG, I would have a coal range / wood stove as back up for cooking and home heating.
The only thing I would have in standby is a modern inverter generator, for those times when there isnt quiet enough wind or sun, or for those jobs for larger power needs.
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This is a house truck that I helpd build for a friend a number of years ago, he lives in the truck all year around, it is fully self contained, he lives in the front 3/4 of the truck and operates a Cafe out of the back 1/4.
he has solar panels on top, and a wind turbine for charging the house batteries, also has a second altinator for charging house batteries when driving, cooking and fridges run on LPG, also hot water califont, and his exspresso coffee machine.
he has an inverter generator as back up power, and can carry up to 1500 litres of drinking water.
He caters for all tyes of events around New Zealand.
http://www.petespalace.co.nz
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NZ Pete; From the picture it doesn't look like a tractor-trailer (5 th wheel). How does he make normal 90 deg. turns? Is there one axel in the front and one axel in the back? Ron
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check out solar on the roof
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Its the largest box body truck allowable on NZ roads, it is twin steer front axels, and twin driving axels at the rear, you just need a reasonable area to turn around in.
These trucks were used in Japan for moving cotton wool. It has a 9 litre mitsubishi v8 diesle.
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Hi I live totally off grid there is not a power pole for 5 miles I have a wife and a 2 year old daughter. We have 5 (only 4 are on the house the other charges the battery for the water pump) 210 watt solar panels and 8 golf cart batteries from Sam's club that are 6 years old we have 2 wind generators but have not finished the towers to put them on. We have lived here for 3 years in AZ summers are 110 deg we have a huge swamp cooler a electric 16 cf refrigerator plasma TV in the bedroom 55 inch big screen in the living room electric washing machine. We have a propane stove, water heater, and heater electric lights we live in a mobile home. We can go for 2 cloudy no sun days with out having to run the generator in fact I have not used the generator for about 4 months its not even hooked up I used it to weld across the property and never plugged it back in. We live like anyone on grid I installed everything myself and it is low maintenance for me I have about 5000.00 into it so yes it can be done just my 2 cents.

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