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Old 05-15-2016, 09:33:33 PM
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Mark... thanks for the great pictures.

Yes, we used a plasma cutter with guide fabricated to fit the inside of the wheel to keep it true.

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These are close-ups of the wheels and new holes, counterbores.

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Given that the extension rims have the different cleat angle, the cleat itself is different than those on the main rims. We cut off a couple good ones to use as patterns, built them up, and had new ones cast out of ductile. They were jigged up and drilled to the holes on the rims. We then riveted them to the rims. Fortunately there weren't many of these needed.

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As Jeff mentioned earlier, we both needed some new cleats to replace bad ones or non-existant ones. I cut off a couple for patterns and got them to him. Through some of his contacts, he was able to create a die and have them pressed out.

They were a perfect fit. That was no small feat, given the compound curve of the cleats.

We then had to drill the holes and rivet them to the rims. On our main rims we replaced approximately 35 out of 80 cleats. We were really wishing they were the later style not requiring 4 rivets a piece.

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This is a very impressive project! Do you have pictures of the die set-up for pressing the new cleats? I would be interested in hearing more about how you formed the dies and got the curvature correct.
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Default Re: Twin City 40

After looking at the picture in Post 34 of the completed wheel, I was curious... are you planning plugging all of the left over holes?
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Bryan... I don't have any pictures of the process. Jeff had made a template of the wheels on his tractor to get the curves accurate. He had contacts that were able to create the dies. I don't know the rest of the details, other than they were very good at their craft.

Jeff...we are going to leave the holes there as beauty marks.

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Mike,

I understand that Rudy Rathert, who has many of his tractors on display in a museum at Forman, ND, is restoring a very early Twin City 40(?) - possibly the type with the enclosed cab. Have you heard anything about this?

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The spokes on these wheels are threaded on one end with the lock nut holding them in place as discussed earlier. The other end is swedged out to a 60 degree cone. To make these we made jigs with countersunk dies on the top. We would cut round stock to fit the jig. Then we would heat the end, drop it in the die, then use a rivet hammer to flatten the end into the countersunk hole.

It took some adjusting to get the distances right, but in the end it worked well. We made separate jigs for the front and rear spokes.

After this we would run the other end through a threading machine.

This job was all done 2 winters ago. We had extra heaters in the shop, as several days it was well below zero outside. Between that and the heating of the round stock, not to mention btu's generated using the rivet hammer, we stayed nice and warm.

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After we had all of the spokes made, we centered the hub in the rim and put it all together like a bicycle wheel.

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