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Old 01-19-2016, 09:14:38 AM
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I have run across an ad for a 1500 watt Kohler, owner says runs and makes electricity. It is a 4 cyl water cooled and have seen a pix, light gray and air cleaner is present but pix doesn't show much detail. Claims to be about 1922.
Is a make offer type deal. Don't want to give way too much but don't want to take a big advantage either. Never know when the same seller might have something else I want. Don't know if it holds water or what it sounds like. Pix is only of the magneto side. Any ideas? Also run across ad for old Onan, info is real vague. Model #10EL-6R, Ser #71-434570. Ford engine 4cyl Type
#4-1004, Ser# 1157-L306. This unit has a panals on it and may be quite complete but seems not to have tried to run it. It is quite large and no idea of its capacity. It is listed at $400. It is big enough physically that I have less interest but if it is a steal I might. The style of the panals would lead me to believe 1940 to 1960 for date. Also the Ford engine is a flat head but doesn't look like a Model 'A' type industrial. Any thoughts welcome. Thanks Ken
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The onan is probably a onan engine or a contintintal never seen a onan that old with a ford engine.. could be rare and.very hard to.find.parts for. Its 10kw.. not sure what the 6r voltage code is but it could be a weird and useless to you voltage. Pics? Looks like it was made 7 of 41

The kohler is a 1a21 or 1m21 and is only worth what someone wants to pay.. i would start in the 200 area
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Also, about the Kohler- assuming that the seller is not guessing on the year and has actually dated it using the serial number,- that is among the earliest of that type. I think they maybe were introduced in 1921.

I'm not sure if they even offered an AC one that early, making it much more likely to be a Model D (DC current) (assuming it's automatic start). I don't remember the model designation for the manual start DC plants. Photos would help. Also of the nameplate.

On the other hand, I didn't think the early ones had air cleaners. Maybe it was added, or, again, seller may be just guessing at the year. Grey makes me think navy from WWII, but, of course anyone could have painted it.

Please get some more photos

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Thanks for the help, I believe it was newer than the owner thought because it is overhead valve and twist on radiator cap. Got a pix of one side. Owner didn't know if it was AC or DC, had only tried with light and a drill so could be either. Anyway called tonight and he said that he had a firm offer of $500 and I felt I had plenty of projects and didn't need it that bad. I'm 69 and probably have enough projects to last my lifetime and still have some unfinished ones at the estate sale.
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They were actually overhead valve from their inception, but the automotive style radiator cap would be a later model.

$500 is getting pretty steep. At that price it shouldn't be a project at all. It should be an automatic AC plant in perfect working order (and demonstrated as such) and should not be painted like it belongs in a circus lol. Unless you like that sort of thing For that money I'd even add that it should be a multi-fuel version

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Hi guys. Here,s a picture of the plate on my early one.
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Anyway called tonight and he said that he had a firm offer of $500 and I felt I had plenty of projects and didn't need it that bad.
I never leave a "firm offer". My "firm offer" ends when the seller rejects it either in person or on the phone, and I make sure he knows it. Leaving an open offer just allows him to leverage the price. Sometimes when the seller sees money walking away he will change his mind.

On the other hand, I regard "I have a firm offer" the same as "I have three people interested". I thank the seller for his time and walk away. Cash in hand talks.
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