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Rumely E Mechanical Restoration


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Old 02-27-2018, 09:52:56 AM
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Because this was converted to spark plugs at some point, much of the advance retard for ignitors was gone. Dean lemer took a couple pieces off of john tysse,s to cast pieces. Dean measured up shaft and went from there. Waiting for parts for this may be the holdup for a spring start, but won't be much left to do. Got .75 cold rolled for shaft and made the attaching lever, that has set screw to anchor it to the shaft. Although not casted it did turn out really well. I am a bit confused as to why rumely switch their carb from left air intake and right advance lever to the opposite orientation.
Luke, I believe reversing every thing about that carb was to simplefy the plumbing to and from the pumps which are on the left on that tractor. The very 1st B & Es had gear driven pumps mounted down on and driven off the cooling pump so it didn't make much difference which side the pipes came up. They just didn't get the changes made right away.
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Old 03-09-2018, 06:41:24 PM
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the canopy is basically complete. one bracket on the frame needs rivets but that will come when we have better weather. plan is to now focus on rear wheels and try to complete before spring planting hits.
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Thanks for the pics and story.

I just noticed that the square gearing grease canisters are mounted on the exhaust pipes. I assume that is to keep them warm and have the grease flow in cold weather. Was that common? Don't remember seeing that before on an E before.

I think you have a little time before spring planting yet!!

good luck,

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Old 03-09-2018, 11:52:48 PM
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So tonight I brought in the a frame. If anyone was at the Tony rivers auction last year in crosby, you may recognize it. I was only gonna let it warm up and melt snow off but curiosity got to me and went to work. Also, I don't know how many people have one of these big air jacks but they are insanely awesome, kits of travel very stable and predictable. A must have on the farm as far as I am concerned.
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Old 03-09-2018, 11:56:11 PM
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Of course being by myself, I took the easy wheel off first, especially when by myself. And with lots of nice grease on the axle it slid off pretty well. Very pleased.
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Old 03-11-2018, 09:25:59 AM
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Had help over yesterday, so with 3 of us we took the other side. This side required a porta power to get the wheel off. Certainly takes less room in the shop. Gonna mic the axle to see if I need to put the replacement in or if this one will be good.
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Old 03-25-2018, 09:13:52 AM
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The last couple weeks when time has been permitted has been focused on the pinion gears. They were excessively worn. I have been building them up and grinding them down. Basically 1 tooth per night and 7 teeth to go. They are turning out nice, just a lot of time.
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Nice job. I need to do that, too. I've been a little hesitant, but I should start. Please give details. Ill use wire feed with inert gas shield. I have a Lincoln SA-200 with a constant voltage converter.
If anyone wants to know how to make an older Lincoln SA-200 welder work as a CV, I can help.
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Old 03-25-2018, 03:51:05 PM
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Not much to it. U m using miller 252. .030 wire and just gotta hammer it out an do it. I am happy it's not with a stick welder.. that would take way longer. 1 more tooth done today... maybe another 2night.
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Threads don't look too good on the diff shaft.
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Halcon, I agree on the looks of threads. Probably need to remove that differential assembly to fix that. I have the same situation here. I have two E differentials. Both have wallowed out threads. That lets differential spread open and the big bevel gears wear only about half of tooth depth. Besides building up gear teeth I need to build up that threaded end and have it threaded and have a new nut made. That threaded end must be a common problem on B, E & Fs. Will also need to turn diff shaft, new bushings for diff sleeve and big diff gear. One set of four pinions may be usable. My E & many others I've seen have been run with sliding gear not fully meshed due to incorrect linkage lengths in shifting system. That needs to be corrected and those gear teeth built up. The big diff gear wears to match also. One of my big differential gears is in good shape.
Lukste; The buildup of pinions looks encouraging. I had almost given up hope on mine.
I have a Miller XMT 304 CC/CV to use when I get some wiring done so I don''t need to run the engine and I have two Lincoln LN-25 wire feeders for both the Miller & for the SA-200.
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In a lot of cases the old timers said the big Rumelys had poor differentials and they were right in a way. The tops of the bevel gear and bevel pinion teeth were worn away varying degrees on the half dozen or so we rebuilt. And it was that damn nut and those shaft threads that was responsible, as well as many hours of operation. As you say Ed it allows the large bevel gears to spread apart and that soon wears the teeth off.
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Tonight I dropped off the differential shaft and gear, it will be making a trip to larsons soon along with the nut to be mended. I chained up the differential gear so it doesn't accidently fall over. Don't need a person, dog, or gear hurt. Thanks, Clyde for pointing this out, good time to do it when wheels are off already
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A rather low key weekend afforded time to get more grease off and expose the originality underneath. Lots of steam washing, glad I have a well.
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Preparation has begun on a lower half Babbitt job on reverse shaft. I dropped off the caps and everything got an extreme steam wash followed by detergent and steam, and then more steam,and lastly either final pass. Nice and clean now, will make shims and prepare for Babbitt later in the week, will re use the old Babbitt along with new. Maybe get it melted out tomorrow. And maybe possibly get differential shaft in before spring hits.
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Preparation has begun on a lower half Babbitt job on reverse shaft. I dropped off the caps and everything got an extreme steam wash followed by detergent and steam, and then more steam,and lastly either final pass. Nice and clean now, will make shims and prepare for Babbitt later in the week, will re use the old Babbitt along with new. Maybe get it melted out tomorrow. And maybe possibly get differential shaft in before spring hits.
Looks great Luke! Hell there is another storm coming they say......I don't think spring is every coming this year! You got time!

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Made a dam today to repair the bottom half of the cap. See how this goes on Saturday. Able to pour on each side of bearing, and each side is vented. All the wood shims are new to eliminate any oil contamination.
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Matt folstad and tom seaberg came over this afternoon with babbit tools and we got to work. The cap was preheated so the babbit didn't chill through the pouring process. Tom heated up the babbit and skimmed off the shit until we were ready to pour. Babbitrite I think it was called was put on as a secondary support to prevent a dam fallout. Tom and i both poured at the same time in each channel and worked really well. Anxious to take cap off and have a look....but will have to be tomorrow.
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Babbit turned out good. Get this shaft wrapped up 2nit.
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I picked up the differential shaft from larsons machine shop last week. They built up the worn out threaded end of shaft oversize of oe size. And then the nut was bored out oversize to match and both sides threaded for a nice fix. The hole for the cross pin was welded solid at the same time. I will drill a new hole for cross pin, when the proper nposition is found. A shout out to Clyde hall for answering the call of help on this differential fix. Hoist is doubling as a jungle gym as well.
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