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Old 11-14-2019, 09:35:16 PM
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Default Wrap-a-rope safety precautions

Just a friendly reminder, make sure that your wrap-a-rope pull cord is appropriate in length for each of your engines! The pull cord on my 1949 Clinton B740 went missing and I grabbed the rope off of a Wisconsin AENL which is a longer rope made to fit on a larger diameter pulley sheave. Unfortunately I did not realize this until I wrapped the rope around the starter cup on my Clinton and gave it a pull. Before the rope fully came off the starter cup, the engine started and whipped the rope around and around, busting the sediment bowl off of the fuel tank, bending the 3/16" cunifer fuel line in two and puncturing the fuel tank. I have never had this happen to me before, and even though I thought I could quickly shut the engine down, it was too late, now I have a week worth of work to do to repair and re-seal the fuel tank, make a new fuel line and repair the damaged blower shroud.

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food for thought....
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Good tip.
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Wow,bad news but at least you didn't get hurt.
I know we had a engine on a wood spliter at the fire department 1 night that I was cranking with a rope.And the knot came back around and caught the biggest ,baddest,former biker dude right in the ,uh,family jewels.
Needless to say I was confused as to start apologizing or running! but I knew I couldn't out run the lead he might start "tossing" my way,so I just started apoligizing.
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Thanks for the safety alert. Does anyone know if there is a rule of thumb for making wrap around starting ropes of the right length??
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Due to several health problems, I use a electric drill to start all of my engines. So much quicker and safer. It is a good idea to have the engine bolted down so you don't have to chase it around the shop when it starts.
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I use 2 to 3 turns around the pulley and 1/8" clearance between the rope and the slot in the starter. 2 turns should get you past at least one compression stroke, with flywheel carryover getting you past 2.. This should go for any engine. With long rope, large diameter starters like that used on wisconson engines, and for that matter any wrap a rope starter, make sure there is no one in the path of the rope as it comes off the pulley. This will at ;eat prvent whip welts and possibly injuries to eyes and the face, should a rope come loose.

Another warning, especially on larger engines, is to NOT wrap your fingers completely around the pulling handle. If the engine kicks back, it could draw your hand intoo moving parts. If you just curl your fingers around the handle, a kick back will draw the handle out of your hand, and your natural body movement will clear it of flying items. better for the engine to take a hit than your face or hands.

One other thing of note - I have seen many small engines where the debris screen has been removed. This screen allso keeps the rope out of the flywhel fins. if the rope happens to get sucked in as the engine starts, it will put a world of hurt on you as it whips around. Be safe out there!
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Another thought, I am working on my 23afb powered generator using gen excited start ing. The pull rope cup is sitting there spinning away. I am going to" fabricobble" a guard to keep finger safely away, after I get it fully running....

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Good tip Bernie. If that rope cup grabbed your pants leg. Ouch big time.
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Default Re: Wrap-a-rope safety precautions

When I pull on the rope my hand moves back from the pulley 30". I have the other hand on the engine to steady it. At that 30" is when I want the rope to unhook and not remain on the pulley. Ron
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A lesson I learned back in the 60’s on an old mini bike with an even older Lawson engine with a pulley & rope starter. Rough on the right ankle!
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This is an interesting problem I have never thought of or had trouble with. It reminds me of what can happen when you are rolling up a fish tape.
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This is an interesting problem I have never thought of or had trouble with. It reminds me of what can happen when you are rolling up a fish tape.
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guess I missed that one. We used Greenlee. Don't recall anyone getting hurt.
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Any fish tape will do it, though it’s worse if it has a leader. It happens right when the remaining tape is just the right length as it’s whipping fore and aft while being wound up. And it only effects men. And it *really* sucks. And you only let it happen ONCE. No repeat lesson required.

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Any fish tape will do it, though it’s worse if it has a leader. It happens right then the remaining tape is just the right length as it’s whipping fore and aft while being wound up. And it only effects men. And it *really* sucks. And you only let it happen ONCE. No repeat lesson required.
AAh, I see. We usually did not wind them up that fast. They were personal tools- company did not provide them. I would have a rag with a little oil or grease on it, wipe and wind. Cleans dirt and makes sure you do not have a rusted tape next time you need it.
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