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Old 06-16-2018, 01:58:21 PM
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Default Re: 1/3 Scale Case Baler

the see if you could adjust the china man to shove it in deeper , the size of hay or how much crushed stuff is in it matter, tighten the long side wire more, rebailing hay bales works pretty good
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Working on the engine valve timing. I was unable to maintain a consistant speed. I couldn't idle the engine slow enoigh. The bailer would run way too fast. Till I am able to control the engine I can't do any adjustments on the bailer.
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Do you know if the original full sized baler had a flywheel like most of the more modern balers? They sure help smooth out the machine but certainly not what I would call great. Strokes per minute? SPM have increased and increased over the years, some of the early NH balers were around 40-50 SPM and I think the NH515 were close to a 100 SPM, don't quote me on that, but that is what I seem to recall. So a baler like yours would probably be 20 SPM or less, they weren't hot rods.
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Feeding by hand limits the spm. The Chinaman just grazed my hand once. I'm thinking that slowing down will make a difference in the quality of the bale. Watching utube some run real slow and the bales look pretty good. This baler doesn't have a knife. The bottom of the bale is neat the top is kind of ratty. Straw works better than grass. Getting a uniform bale might be a challenge with this design. The placement of the hay in front of the plunger is the key. A combination of spm, feeding technique, the length of the chinaman and type of material might help make a better bale. We baled 25 to 30,000 bales/year when I was a kid. Thanks for the input.
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Old 07-21-2018, 10:12:48 PM
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Other than a couple of set screws working loose baler is working fine. The flipper/folder was impeding the flow into the bale chamber. I put a stop on it to prevent it from interferring with the chinaman. Bales are nice and tight and square. It takes a little peactice to get the wires tensioned right. Wife made a display with fake flowers and ribbons. The whole display is a big hit at the shows.
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Old 07-22-2018, 06:35:52 AM
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Very good work.
You'll find that how you feed it can make a big difference in bale quality, straw is by far the best to get a nice bale, if you have a lot of chaff it will fall to bottom and make lopsided bale also.
Another thing that will make a big difference is when you finally get the chamber to a nice shiny polish from the straw, it works so much better that way, no paint or rust.
Once you have that an easy way for keeping it during storage is a coat of wd40, spray it on and don't touch it, sure it collects dust and stuff but next season one bale and your back to a nice shiny chamber that works great, that's what I do with mine.
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Started making a signal bell. I was thinking about using a bicycle sprocket but couldn't find ont I liked. A regular sprocket was a little pricey and i had to do some adapting anyway so I ended up making one with the rotary table. Got the gong off ebay. No plans. Just a picture off the net.
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Ready for paint. A few notes: notice the sprocket has clapper holes at different locations to accomidate different lengths of bales. (That didn't work) Its the diameter of the sprocket that determines the length of the bale. I started out with a 6" sprocket and ended up with about 4 7/8 + after experimenting a little. Should have a 12 - 13" bale. Won't know for sure how that works out till I start baling again. Another thing was that the clapper where it strikes the bell has to have a stop so the clapper stops just short of the cong. Otherwise the bell will not ring. There is just a thud. I also had to make a wedge to tilt the asssembly so the sprocket enters the bale chamber about a half inch and the gong doesn't rest on the bale chamber. The clapper is made from 1/8" music wire. The clapper pivot with the spring arm is silver soldered together. This should eliminate bales 2ft long that happens when the help doesn't pay attention to what they are doing.
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Signal bell is done and painted aslo added a counter.
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Been having problems with bales being bananna shaped. I just discovered that the paint on the bottom of tha bale chamber was partially gone creating a roughness.. The top of the chamber has the paint intact. This created a drag on the bottom of the bale causing them to have a serious curve as they came out of the chamber. If I was to do it again I wouldn't paint the inside of the bale chambers. Maybe some kind of rust preventer in the winter. I am also repositioning the bale counter. I couldn't get enough travel in the counter arm to get it to work. I also had to reduce the signal pickup wheel diameter..
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Thinking the banana bail is partly caused by the way the stuff gets pushed more to the bottom as some already said chafe makes it curve too , I've been cranking the lower wire tighter than the top to help this out I'll try to get a pic of my wire looper this week end in adrian mo.
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We have to tighten the wire more on the top. Bales were almost curling (down) when they came out. They don't always do that. I think the way you feed it and the chaf has something to do with that But if there is something in the chamber causing a drag on either the top of bottom it's going to have an effect. Going to NTA Friday. I'll see how it goes.
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Your 1/3 scale bailer was very entertaining to watch and a great addition to the NTA show! I'm looking forward to seeing it, and your 1/3 scale Case, in action again at a future show. Thank you!
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Thanks. We have a lot of shows we will be going to this summer. I see you are from Travrese City. We will be at the Buckley show. They are trying to develope the area in front of the Webber Barn as a scale model steam diaplay area. There is already the Spirit of Travers City locomotive model giving rides. We tried baling sawdust from the shingle mill next to us. It made some nice bales. In talking to some of the big boys it was suggested that they might work well for the spark show. I guess loose sawdust has somewhat of an explosive reaction causing kind of a flashback from what they say. The little bales are cute but our production tends to outpace the market. I originally tried to sell them and my wife decorates a few that she sells. And we bale some barley straw for algae control in ponds. I recently decided that due to having a garage full of tiny bales that we will be giving away the regular ones.
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The baler is now working flawlessly. The upper feed plunger caught and bent one of the upper connecting links. I bent it back in the press and left a little crown in it and installed it upside down. I also added an inch to the plunger so it would enter the bale chamber a little farther. The end result is that the upper plunger enters the bale chamber and stops 2" from the bottom of the bale chamber. That seems to be the key to getting square evenly packed bales. To lengthen the upper plunger any more would have put it close to hitting the hopper in the downward part of the cycle. Much more fun when things come together like that.
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