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Old 05-19-2019, 07:53:34 PM
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So how come you are fireing up in the rain when it's 65 degrees with a cold boiler and cold city water and crap half wet wood? It must be my age but I try to avoid those conditions. An hour and 25 minutes to get 90# of steam! Are you trying to make me feel good? Susshine tomorrow I'll try it then.
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Well it was sunny when I lit the fire then poured rain for twenty minutes got a good solid hour of running around the yard with it and fan time before you started raining again. Figured it needed to be out and cleaned as well since it hasn't been looked at since August last year.
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You need to concentrate more on your steam division and less on your hit and miss division. (Or) change your name to Oldiesgas. Or maybe Gotgas.
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Weighed it today. 1260# with boiler and bunker topped off.

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Weighed it today. 1260# with boiler and bunker topped off with water. Thought it would be more than that. Was thinking Oldies steam said 1500# for his. I wasn't sitting on mine when I weighed it.
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What is a quality steam gauge that holds up well? I have one with the Case logo on it that I think I paid $80 for. (Cheap gauge with Case printed on the dial). It is sticking.
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I think it was about 1200# when I weighted mine but I wasn't on it and bunkers were empty.

As far as a steam gauge goes not sure I can help you there. Mine's OLD but was going to retire it and get one with the name printed in it like yours never have.
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Weight sounds about right. I think there is 15-20 gallons water. I am gioing go try to disassemble the gauge and see if I can get a little oil in it and loosen it up a bit. Worked fine last year. Zero experience with gauges (so far)
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7100 -- Check out Mc Master-Car.
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Checked out Mcmasters Carr. One (steam gauge)was $35. But it was 3 1/4" diameter. Not a good fit. Another (high temperature gauge) was $250 to almost $800. Don't need that. There has to be a 2" steam rated gauge reasonably priced. I'll keep looking or try to get this one working.
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We use Wiki glycerin filled gauges here. Seem to hold up well and the liquid fill keeps them from jumping around. Brass bodied and real glass fronts. PM me an address and Ill send ya one.
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an acquaintance of mine owns a machine shop that makes parts for the 7 1/2 inch gauge locomotive hobby. He has a steam pressure gauge that might be the size you want, maybe a little small. http://locoparts.biz/parts.html#Gauges
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Thanks Skugger. I am going to see what 1/4 Case comes up with. I looked at the website and it is a little small. The Wika gauges seem to be more to an industrial standard. Brass construction with real glass. I'll see how they hold up. Hopefully I can get things like this sorted out so others won't waist resources on junk.
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a little size to the gauge doesn't hurt , your going to want to sit down for lunch ,or be building steam with blower on, or gathering fuel for some task or be off the engine for some reason , and your going to need to see your pressure form 10 to 20 feet away. a decent size pressure gauge and a decent size water column glass are critical to safety a nice 2 1/2 inch gauge works you want the normal pressure you run to be about straight up on the gauge and put a gauge siphon tube on (pigtail) it
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Did you contact the guy you got the gauge from? I thought he was using Ashcroft Gauges to begin with. Also you might need to change your gauge line to a pig tail instead of the U shape your running.
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No I did not contact the guy I got it from. His website doesn't state that they are ashcroft gauges. He does have a rebuild service for antique gauges. I am not an expert of quality gauges so to call his gauges junk may be a bit unfare. I do know that it lasted a year - now it's sticking. Maybe there is a reason. The Wika gauge seems to be a quality comercial gauge. It is 2 1/2" diameter. Not sure what a pigtail is. I thought you needed a syphon to protect the gauge. The old gauge is 2 1/2" so fit isn't an issue.
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Hey B7100 -

Gauges should not be lubricated. They should run dry.

True steam tractor gauges have a double Bourdon tube, and due to the linkage, nullify any backlash in the gears, thus, remain steady on a vibrating steam tractor. Standard gauges do not. Mounting your gauge to a vibrating machine or pipe that jiggles agrevates the gauge.

Liquid filled gauges were designed for high vibration applications. Not sure how well they'd hold up above a hot boiler though.

As long as gauge materials can handle the heat (housing, face, glass, bronze innards), it'll work fine on your engine.

The challenge these days is trying to find one with only pounds on it, and not also a Metric equivlant.

Keep looking...

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mcmaster pigtail 1/4 4" 240 psi @ 400° F ASTM B43 4031K28 8.40
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O.K. I get the pigtail. Is that to mean that the gauge was getting too hot causing it to malfunction? The pigtail will insulate better from heat damage!
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Going to be at Buckley next Friday thru Sunday. Hope to see a lot of models there.
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Had a busy day. Pictures are in front of Henry Ford's boyhood home at Greenfield Village. This was the 18th event this year. Other pictures were at Amish Acres - Napanee, Indiana last week.
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