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1963 Lincoln Red Face SA 200 resto project


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Old 10-23-2012, 09:51:17 AM
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Stay with it Jim you got it looking real good.
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Impatiantly waiting for my new water pump to arrive!!! That's the last part, then fire up!
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Old 11-05-2012, 12:08:01 PM
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Looks good Jim I'm ready to see it go and i know you are . Looks like you got some more stuff around there to play.
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well it runs like champ but the R57 idler solenoid is toast. Looks like I am going to have to install a new electronic idler. Darn it. The old R57's have been made obsolete and new solenoids are no longer available.

On the plus side I was able to manually rev it up and weld with it, and it purrs like a kitten!
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Congratulations I know you we're ready to hear it run
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Old 11-14-2012, 12:50:45 AM
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I saw one of those R-57 idlers on ebay(nos) not to long ago. It would be nice to keep it original. You could check with some of the welder repair shops. Most of us pipe welders switch to the electric idlers because the grinder also revs these up, where as the r-57 needs pinned open for the grinder. On one of mine I rigged up a switch with a solenoid on the vaccume to rev it up. They may have a used one that could be cleaned up to get working. Did you check the idler? Sometimes they just need cleaned and adjusted with a new ciggarette filter. Good luck, Jeff.
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Thanks Jeff. You are 100% correct! Someone way long ago completely removed that little felt filter. My dad had told me there was something wrong with the idler when he bought the welder over 40 years ago. He rarely used it and when he did he just pinned the linkage. I took the R57 over to a local shop and the guys there put a cig filter in it and a small copper shim inside the solenoid. We adjusted it there and tested it and it works perfect. I'll put it on this weekend and adjust the governor. I am pretty sure everything is out of whack. I'll "shelf" the new electronic idler I ordered from Hybriweld, for now. I really won't need a grinder on it so not revving up the 110v with the old school idler is okay with me. It's just a home shop machine right now.
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Finally the time came this weekend to get everything "dialed in" I had stated earlier that the R57 idler was working correctly.... well, it did on the bench but did not once on the machine I was able to strike an arc while looking at the plunger on the solenoid, I lifted the boot and noticed that the needle was not dropping as it should I pulled the R57 back off, stretched the needle spring a little and that did the trick. Runs, welds, idles low and high as it should, and generates power. I am very happy with this SA200!
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Now you have a real welder, worth about ten grand in Edmonton.
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they sure do get crazy money for these 1960's Red Face's. It may not look the prettiest but other than a paint job it's in fantastic condition now. I like the "working clothes" it's in, no fancy paint job will make it weld any better so this is it.

Actually there is one last thing I plan on doing and that is having the generator baked and painted internally. Then she's done. Hopefully good for a few more decades.
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proud for you jim i have watched the whole way
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This one has been pretty close to my heart. My dad bought it from a company that he worked for, his ex father inlaw at the time (my grandpa) was part owner of that company when the machine was bought new, my dad went on to own a part of the company, and now I am a shareholder in the company. I was just a young boy back when my dad bought it and I learned how to weld with it. Now it's mine, and my son has been able to help get it back into shape, learn a few things along the way, and he'll learn how to weld with it.
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i am working on a Lincoln SA-200 i was looking up the R57 idler and i find this website and i find a old friend working the same welder. i welded my old 1948 Willy's jeep

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i am working on a Lincoln SA-200 i was looking up the R57 idler and i find this website and i find a old friend working the same welder. i welded my old 1948 Willy's jeep with your welder.
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Stay with it Erik they're fine machines as you know. Try weldingweb.com and aws.org for more on the SA200's!
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