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1963 Lincoln Red Face SA 200 resto project


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Old 09-14-2012, 05:01:23 PM
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Photo 1963 Lincoln Red Face SA 200 resto project

In 1971 my dad bought a running Lincoln SA 200 for a whopping $20. I learned how to weld on that machine as an 8 year old. The welder got used on and off for the next 25 years or so and then got stuffed away in a pole building at my grandpas.

Recently I decided that I need a new project so I asked my dad if I could restor the old Pipeliner 200. He thought about it for about 2 minutes and said "I'll never need it again, you can have it".

And so it begins... another resto project. I understand that sheet metal and many other parts are still available for these old machines.

If anyone has any pointers, tips, or other experience in the reserection of these machines I'm all ears.
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Old 09-14-2012, 07:23:47 PM
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Hello Jim I've heard a lot about those machines all was good. I'm just a ranch welder but got some friends that use them to make a living with. Poke around over here they have a Lincoln forum till someone answers over here http://weldingweb.com/ if you could post some more pictures I just like to look and keep us posted on the restoration
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Got it dragged out and sitting in my shop.... now the fun begins!
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Default Re: 1963 Lincoln Red Face SA 200 resto project

These are great machines! very little goes wrong with that model generator: it is one of the all copper ones. Be sure and replace the center bearing in the generator /exciter end, they can't be lubricated and tend to dry out. THERE IS TONS OF INFO OUT THERE ON THESE JUST GOOGLE IT. IF YOU CAN'T WELD WITH A SA200 YOU CAN'T WELD.
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Old 09-16-2012, 04:04:01 PM
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Man that's going to clean up really good please keep us posted . There's an old guy about 30 miles from me that rebuilds a lot of these and other kinds he has a lot of old parts if there is anything you just can't find any where he may be able to help.
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Jim, The biggist problem I`ve had in restoring these machines is the amp reostat and a rusty fuel tank. They are a great machine to weld with, so stable and with a 600 amp stall a duty cycle is none, just keep burning if you can stand the heat. The last one I did up went to Edmonton with a pipe liner.
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it's coming apart... I found out where the "dead spot" is that I remembered it had..
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Hello Jim we are watching and enjoying it.
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Not many hours on the engine, When I was heavy in the engine rebuilding we would warranty them for 10,000 hours. They would send them back to me with 15,000 hours on them and in most cases all they would neen is a little valve work and a set of bearings. Run the bag off of it and they are no trouble, they just hate to idle as they will carbon up and the carbon will tear it to pieces. Geat engine, great machine.
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Pulled the plugs and poured a little oil in each of the cylinders, let it soak a bit and rolled the engine over (plugs out of course, which is why there's oil everywhere....)

I didn't think it was stuck, but I didn't just want to crank it over dry.
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Pulled the radiator last night, I plan on having it hot tanked and pressure tested. I don't plan on tearing down the whole engine since it has such low hours on it. One thing I need to do is figure out where the oil leak is, the pattern of oil flung onto the radiator leads me to believe it might be coming from the governor area rather than the front seal.
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Is that old oil or when you turned it over with then plugs out. All most gonna have to have it running to tell we're it's coming from unless there is a breather hose there. Might can search some of the old post here and figure it out. Stay with it cowboy
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Is that old oil or when you turned it over with then plugs out. All most gonna have to have it running to tell we're it's coming from unless there is a breather hose there. Might can search some of the old post here and figure it out. Stay with it cowboy
It's old. I think it's coming from the lower mag bolt.
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Still tearing into it....

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Man your really getting down to business . Great video I had been wondering how it was coming along.
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Just got the radiator back from the radiator shop, great to have freinds at a shop like that! the radiator is all good to go. Found a stuck valve so off came the head, thats fixed now... also rebuilt the generator like new... just couldn't stand the thought of going to an alternator it just wouldn't be right.
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Man every thing looks great I believe you did the right thing with the generator keep us posted lot of pics is good. here's my generator on third page of threads right now.
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Here's the the thread about my gen .who showing you everything or do you know about motors and generators looks like you are doing pretty good. http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109865
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Getting it back together.....
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found a hairline crack in my manifold, I have brazed quite a bit of cast iron but have not had good luck on old, brittle exhaust manifolds. I did find that new manifolds are out there (tractor parts guys are much cheaper than welder parts guys for the same manifold!)

My new manifold arrived last night. If you buy a new manifold for one of these and you're running the Marvel Schebler carb like me, you have to open the throat a little for the butterfly to clear.
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