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1924 Advance Rumely Universal finds new home


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Old 09-16-2019, 03:55:58 PM
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Default 1924 Advance Rumely Universal finds new home

So I decided to feed the itch to own my own steam traction engine. I am beyond excited and haven’t had a good nights sleep in 2 days.

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1924 ARU
20 HP

Things on my to do list.
Buy some grates
Paint boiler after a good bath
Replace current engine number badge
Fix pedestal as it has part of it broken off (have some of the pieces)
Replace water tanks with original size and shape.
Make castings for the cylinder style water tanks that connect to the boiler.

If anyone has advice or leads please comment or PM me.
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Old 09-16-2019, 03:59:23 PM
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Old 09-16-2019, 05:14:15 PM
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Default Re: 1924 Advanced Rumely Universal finds new home

Ut oh......Tom gonna have to find another engineer for his engines now ?

Congrats !
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Congrats on getting the engine
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Congratulations! Oh, and take the bath after you paint
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awesome find and happy steaming for years to come.

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Default Re: 1924 Advance Rumely Universal finds new home

I have a question. I have not seen an ARU with the tanks in front of the drivers in person before. I do know that the square tank on mine is not original. Also I see that the tanks in front of the drivers are about 8-12” lower than the rear water tank. Are they all connected to each other? Or just the front tanks to each other? On mine the square tank is connected to the rear water tank and on top of the square tank it has a pipe that goes up 8-12” with a plug in it with a small hole to let air out as water enters.

If anyone has more detailed pictures to clarify I would appreciate it.
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Front tanks should be round
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Where did you find the engine number stamped. My number plate is missing and it not stamped on the dome.

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It’s on the left side of the smoke box. The original plate is not readable, tho I still have it.

So the owner before the one I bought it from had a brass plate stamped and placed on the left side of the smoke box.
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Congrats, going to be a great engine. Keep us posted and keep sending pictures. Where are you going to run it?

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My tanks are all the same height but the rear tank is mounted higher. All three tanks should be plumbed together and the front two should have a sealed cap to prevent them from spilling when the rear is completely full.
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My tanks are all the same height but the rear tank is mounted higher. All three tanks should be plumbed together and the front two should have a sealed cap to prevent them from spilling when the rear is completely full.
If thats your engine thats the one i have been looking at as far as a paint scheme. It looks great. Well flat out fricken awesome.

I dont think i would go as far as putting on a boiler jacket unless i could make it so it could be easily removed.

So how do you get the air out of the tanks if they are sealed? I would think that the water wouldn't move to those tanks when the air in them has no place to go.

Unless its plumed top and bottom to the rear tank.

Could you take some picture of how you plumbed it to give me some ideas?

I am also going to need the bracket that mount to the boiler to hold the tanks in place as well. wether i get one casted or steel.

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Default Re: 1924 Advance Rumely Universal finds new home

My guess is the original front tanks rotted and were replaced with the ones on the engine now or this engine never had the front tanks on it from the factory and somebody added those square tanks later on?.Is their any known working and ownership history on this engine?
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Thanks!
I dont have a picture of the top of the tank but the factory castings have a place for a vent pipe to let air out.
My side tanks have a rubber hose connecting the two with a T connecting the back tank. I dont have a picture right now and the engine is still waiting to come home from Mount Pleasant.
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Casetractor makes a good point. Of it never had the tanks to begin with you will have to find the brackets. Cattail Foundry might have patterns.
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Default Re: 1924 Advance Rumely Universal finds new home

Is there any other place that serial number I visible on an ARU besides the smokebox? Oyrs has had a "new" smokebox welded on the front, so the serial number from the engine is gone from that part.
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Casetractor makes a good point. Of it never had the tanks to begin with you will have to find the brackets. Cattail Foundry might have patterns.
Yeah I need grates as well so I think I should start making a list of castings I need. So far brackets for water tank and possibly the pedestal or find a way to repair it. Not sure how much that missing piece will affect the steering as the rollers are just below that part of the missing part.

Are there part numbers on the casting for the water tank brackets?

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Get used to the sleepless nights cause you will be waking up thinking about how you are going to deal with all the things you listed. Very happy that you finally found something. Hope we will see it at Buckley next year. Have you handed Tom your resignation yet?
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Get used to the sleepless nights cause you will be waking up thinking about how you are going to deal with all the things you listed. Very happy that you finally found something. Hope we will see it at Buckley next year. Have you handed Tom your resignation yet?
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